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DevReply Why defender is under used

Discussion in 'The World of Battle Bay' started by Capitan Defender, 5 Apr 2018.

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Do u think defender needs his hitbox to be fixed?

  1. Yes

  2. No is not an option this time,sorry...(lol)

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  1. SlayerofSergeants

    SlayerofSergeants Well-Known Member

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    "But they have high defense" is not a valid argument. The max defense we can get is 100 points, sacrificing much needed HP. In a world where EC, blast cannon, torpedoes, crit sniper shots, mines, etc... exceed 2000 hp damage each, saving 100 points on each hit is not going to even preserve your life for an extra shot by the time you are sunk.
     
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  2. Snapshot

    Snapshot Well-Known Member

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    As Rovio continues to say, Defenders actually perform very well in the statistics. I agree with them although I seldom see a defender performing their role at my infamy. What I'd like to see changed for defenders is I'd like to see them get active defenses rather than passive ones. That would make defender play much more skill based and presumably much more engaging. After they do that, they can tune the hit box and whatever else as needed.

    (this from a guy who doesn't play defender so... yanno)
     
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  3. SupremeCalamitas

    SupremeCalamitas Well-Known Member

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    Keep defender as they are. People don't use defender because it's SOOOO slow. Agility is terrible, a speeder with skills could circle a defender and kill it without getting shot
     
  4. PhoenixLife

    PhoenixLife Well-Known Member

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    Porthos didn't quit
     
  5. FearsomeChicken

    FearsomeChicken Well-Known Member

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    Omg yes, defenders need active blue items! Right now defenders are forced to play the dull charging role because its super hp from shields doesn't regenerate, so they have to get the most dmg out of the time that they're alive. Having active blue items would change this, you'd get defenders who can use SKILL for once and actually protect and defend their teamates.
     
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  6. Crashedup

    Crashedup Well-Known Member

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    Defender is not underused it is quite a decent boat for low to mid lvl gameplay and you see quite a lot of them problem is that at higher infamy they lack of things which makes them underused
     
  7. Stonebanks

    Stonebanks Well-Known Member

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    So where is he?
     
  8. Snapshot

    Snapshot Well-Known Member

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    Imagine a "weapon" which could, for a moment, redirect any damage that happened to a team-mate to the defender instead. Using it well would be highly skill based and involve solid team coordination. Used poorly it would be a poor mans heal. Used well it could be devastating. It would make the defender think.

    My son played a lot of tank-classes in MMORPG's and he always said he liked active vs. passive abilities. So I'm channeling him with these thoughts.
     
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  9. ShipCrusherCz

    ShipCrusherCz Well-Known Member

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    Does it really matter?
  10. Capitan Defender

    Capitan Defender Well-Known Member

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  11. Capitan Defender

    Capitan Defender Well-Known Member

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    Ol i did noot expected so much peeps will coment on this...TANK u so much comrades!
     
  12. ShipCrusherCz

    ShipCrusherCz Well-Known Member

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    Does it really matter?
    not super buff, but it will slightly help carronades users
     
  13. Ser Tomaz

    Ser Tomaz Active Member

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    Defence point should reduce fire dmg (not 1 by 1, obviously)
     
  14. Bradley Thorinsson

    Bradley Thorinsson Well-Known Member

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    It is NOT, as you have put foward, an "under-used" ship
     
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  15. Capitan Defender

    Capitan Defender Well-Known Member

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    How much hojrs did it took for u 2 make dis text?like hly hell im imressed!
     
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  16. Miika

    Miika Game Lead

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    Using longer data set shows quite similar results. I only used the last season so that there would be no complaining that the data is outdated.

    Every ship has quests and defender is not an exception in any way. 2 weeks is more than enough to draw statistically significant conclusions of the current situation.

    Mk7 Defender was more used by both the count of unique users and battles played than Mk7 Enforcer or Mk7 Fixer.
    Mk7 Defenders also had higher average infamy than Mk7 Enforcers for example.

    Just because you don't like the data doesn't mean it is fake.
     
  17. *JAWS*

    *JAWS* Well-Known Member

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    I like data. And appreciate you bringing this up. But average infamy means nothing.

    Why? You have yet to say why no defenders top 10 for 6 months.
    No developer has. Big huge elephant sized hole.
    So defender is doing better than players imagine. Great. Fantastic news.

    But why then can't hasn't a Defender been number 1 player yet in over 8 months?

    Miika. U can pull data after data. What' coming loud and clear is devs have no intention of fixing Defenders Hit box or making it relevant as in can be Best boat in game. All others boats have been. A true datatician would want to know why? The answer can't be the boat isn't fun. And it cant be players use it wrong.
    If you come to those conclusions. You aren' using data.

    Fix it.

    You very well know development team the Hit box for the Defender is oversized.

    Will u fix it?

    @The Grim Repair
    @Zeus
    @Miika
     
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  18. Capitan Defender

    Capitan Defender Well-Known Member

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    These words are golden ....*sniff* :,)
    Defendo loves ya
     
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  19. Capitan Defender

    Capitan Defender Well-Known Member

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    Defender was never in top 10,and if this keeps on going,defender will never be in top 100 as well,fix the invisable hitbox...is it that hard?u made a new look to the defender,but not fixing its hitbox?i wanna hear the reason,and dont tell me defender is ment to soak up dmg(well yea,and after 10 shots to be dead becoz of torpedos)also shooter is not defender!mk6 shooter has same or even more hp than good defendr setup...like 8k hp or even more!wat is dis?!if u aint gonna help defender,just remove that thip from the game,at least we wont have anything else to complain(exept noob matchmaking,like thats 10 times worse than defender's invisable hitbox)
     
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  20. Fluid Bait

    Fluid Bait Well-Known Member

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    It's Voila, and not Walla.
    Just a reminder. ;)
     
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