On the Subject of the Sniper Cannon

Will that be easy to fetch? The data?

 

@TheAntiSnipe did a meta snapshot of about ~100 ships in Ace 2 and Ace 3. Which is probably more representative of the lower levels (and f2p) builds.

https://forum.battlebay.net/threads/ace-3-ace-2-meta-snapshot.14863/

Sniper was the most popular weapon for every ship, even on speeders!

 

Honestly i think the crit % is ok but the crit damage is completely broken, how do i know ,well i was in a match a week ago and i fougth a enf with the same loadout as me( 1 epic lvl 13 sniper 2 rare lvl 32 blast) his blast does the same damage as mine around 600 but his sniper crits for 900 and mine crits for 590 , i have both damage talents and all epic crit % perks while he has epic crit damage perk on his.so even if u nerf the crit % , those hard hitting sniper are not even going to be affect , i even ask other players ,they say to get the chance up to 20% ( one rare perk) which is 1/5 crit and all damage.

 

I'm just gonna leave this here.

 

Plus,
U will have to make a database and fill in entries one by one, that will be real pain!
Unless u have a better way of inserting the data!

 

N setup some bots to give real time information of desired topic.

 

On the subject of Blast Cannon nerf.

I have been 1000 percent right since pre rollback in these threads telling players be cautious what u ask the devs to do. Too much power. And the solution they come up with always, always goes too far.

Too many tokens? Solution... rollback 2 weeks of game play.
Change guild once?
Solution...
No rivalry rewards for 2 weeks.
Frost and torpedo combo was starting to get used meta?
Solution.... Devs destroy frost with fix. And go way further reducing fire damage, and wrecking ex cannon area damage.
Now some of the previous frost users have complained and complained loudly about sniper....what do u think from this pattern the devs will do?
They will overreact. And another sniper nerf will come up. Even tho it was nerfed twice before. No other weapon in game has been nerfed 3 times. But our pro sniper nerf posters have zero clue big picture how devs will react. And pattern history shows us the devs will overreact.
So my message here is stop asking the devs to nerf weapons. The game gets ruined with these overreactions. Every question i mentioned...once the devs fixed it
...lost hundreds and thousands of players. The player base shrinks. We the community reduce the chance of this game surviving.
Start forums about buffing. Underused ships. Enforcer, fixer and defender. All can use a buff. Meta and league snap shots show these ships are used barely in end game. And are underballanced.
and buff underused weapons. Once underused weapons are buffed.
No one here will complain about sniper. Or any other weapon again. Balancing weapons is key.

Devs have the data. Underused weapons and ships get buffed. Forget nerfing.

Or next time. I will read thru whom the loudest voices were for these nerfs. And start a forum about nerfinf your favorite weapon? nerf blast cannon anyone? If not me. Someone else in our community will. This is said ironicly and as use of logic so we can understand mob mentalility and prevent another exodus of players from our game. Think big picture. Do u trust the fix?

 

Firstly, I never used frost, and I’ve been calling for sniper nerf, pretty much, since I started playing.

Secondly, I hope they do overreact. I came here to have battles with cute little boats, not name tags on the horizon. Sniping is a stupid game mechanism, and the less it’s in the game, the better!

 

I'm not convinced any nerf is needed, but IF a nerf is to be done, a slight tweak to crit % using distance scaling is the best idea I've seen floated so far.
That being said, aren't most complaints bout long range crits? This solution sounds opposite to that, not to mention at close range you are better off with BC/EX canons.

 

The problem is, there is no counter strategy against snipers. The long range crits are fairly OP, but if you manage to avoid them, and get close, then it doesn’t get any less OP. That’s why reducing the crit chance at short range would at least provide a strategic answer to getting sniped.

BC and ExC are ‘arguably’ better at short range, but there is no incentive to run them when sniper is so versatile.

If people were forced to run a ExC or Carronade for close range fighting, then that’s one less slot that can be occupied by spammy things like torpedoes and mortars.

Nerfing sniper isn’t just about reining in that one OP weapon, it’s also about encouraging people to take more balanced builds. At the moment a shooter can spam 4 mortars and a sniper, and he’d still have all his bases covered: able to weaken ships at long range, spam tons of mortars at medium range, and still crit a speeder for 1100! damage, point blank.

 

Waste of space reply. 100% bias

 

1. give it a min. range like motars
2. nerf sniper PERKS
3. nerf bhurt training
4. make armour protect against crits. For every 1 armour, it takes 2% crit chance away from the shot!

pick no. 4 and 1 or 2 others, and you have a good nerf!

 

So make defenders/shooters/ anyone who uses defense perks immune to crit? No thanks that's a bit too far. Rescaling Bhurt tree to give sniper benefits later on I can see.