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Nerf sniper!!!

Discussion in 'Game Discussion' started by Zusay, 25 Nov 2017.

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  1. ViscountSniffit

    ViscountSniffit Well-Known Member

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    There is a common misconception that buffing and nerfing are the same difference, but they are not.

    The ultimate objective is not to make things useless, it’s to make things balanced. Balance is important because it leads to more variety, which leads to more strategy, which leads to more depth, which means a better and more playable game.

    When games are played at a highly competitive level, the top players will reach a point where they are all playing close to perfect (no mistakes). When that happens, even the slightest inconsistencies in the game can become game breaking.

    Take chess as an example. For most novice players, losing a pawn is no big deal, it’s a worthless throwaway piece (hence the name); but between grandmasters an extra pawn is a game winning advantage. Many (if not most), top games are won or lost because of a single pawn advantage.

    The easiest way to achieve balance is to make everything the same, so that games are perfectly symmetrical. As players improve at games and the ‘pawns’ become more important, players will naturally seek out more and more symmetry. That’s why it’s often better to nerf things towards an median.

    If you try to buff things away from each other then you introduce more asymmetry, and asymmetric balance is very difficult (if not impossible).

    So no, buffing and nerfing are not equally good for balance.
     
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  2. ViscountSniffit

    ViscountSniffit Well-Known Member

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    Whether or not you wish to accept it, doesn’t make it any more, or less, true.

    In @TheAntiSnipe ’s ace league snapshot, snipers are the most popular weapon on both speeders and enforcers. So go figure.

    However, speeders aren’t the best platform for snipers (lower turret), both speeders and enforcers are massively underused in ace league. With shooters being more popular than all the other boats combined. And a huge number of those are (of course), running at least one sniper.

    You even run two yourself. Don’t you think it’s even ‘a little’ disingenuous to come here and say that you don’t accept its OP, when you run two of them? Bias aside, why even run one if it’s not that good? Let alone two!
     
  3. A55A51N

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    I have a guildmate who runs 3-4 so..
     
  4. Help I Cant Swim

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    Lol, got eem. @yellowocean doesn't want them nerfed because he uses them.
     
  5. yellowocean

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    because i'm a long range player... what other weapon does long range point damage for 1 slot point.... DUH... and for those who think i don't want them nerfed just because i use them is so far from the truth... i don't want them nerfed simply because they are not OP, i use 2 because i get more snipers than blast cannons and explosive cannons (that simple)... rescaled maybe... if you think my perspective is skewed towards nightmare, i still play low level battles with an anonymous account.
     
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  6. yellowocean

    yellowocean Well-Known Member

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    i'm not a frost user as well, but i never whined for it to be nerfed... now look what happened to it... if you guys can't handle the play, just go find another game... i'm tired of you whiners whining about this is OP that is OP, everything is OP!!! you guys haven't even advanced far enough to get a more wholesome perspective of all the weapons... so just deal with it!!!
     
  7. yellowocean

    yellowocean Well-Known Member

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    i've been through the gauntlet of sniper fire thousands of times in this game and i am telling you, sniper cannon is as balanced as it can get... that's why the devs haven't touched it...
     
  8. CaffeinatedChris

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