Let's remake the Defender

That in a way though being sarcasm (cause i dont want any nerfs to anything) to prove the opposite that defender isn't dead/whatsoever, is also my way of saying nothing is under rated.
And yes i played with my mk5 for the ss :3
In respect to this post, defender is still a highly-likeable option among players, especially who prefer a massive HP tank, and if used right can be led to victory. So debate is for? Thing you guys are looking for is a special attribute for each ship? Well then HP and defence points is the answer, cause no other ship has equivalent HP/def points at any similar mk level compared to defender. That alone is a big plus point if taken good advantage of.

Edit : Shooter is op nerf it

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This!!

 

hold on one cotton pickin second! Who's the defender here buddy! I'll chase you down and spank you with all 3 of my weapons! Wait you have how many weapons? Oh, ok. Carry on...

 

Some high level shooters (mk6/7) have 10-12k+ HP (dual shields+HP oriented crew) but defenders always have higher HP compared to their respective mk levels.
Your defender is of lower mk level than the shooter and hence comparable HP

 

Yea I understand that, but it's the comedy gold I was referencing lol

 

U load a bandage.
Shooter without bandage.
with same loads defender always got more hp... it's not a 5% for defender per talant , - it's 10% ... !

 

If I can't defend on the bay, I'll get a new job! Defend my comedy on bay forums! It was for laughs guys, not diagnosis lol

 

Nothing hurt them, flare + twin explo is still great if not op. Its pretty easy to crush others with that combo.

 

Violet items.....hmm
Taking from a post of mine in thread@New Weapon......a lil change here
Lucky shield= it will have 50% chance to block damage and 10% chance to counter half the damage and the othr 40% u can be hitted....% can be raised from perks it needs timing as it lasts for just 1 sec. Here it came.....here it go....... it will take 2 slots 15 sec. Cooldown
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New ideas.......
1.Anti torp= This special wep needs some strategy....If u see a torp. coming than throw this to cross tht torp and tht torp will blast as soon as it will touch.....it's speed will be slow so as I said it needs strategy....wht if u shooted it when the torp is close.....boom ......1 slot point......20 sec. Cooldown

2.Armor protection= Just like repair pulse but instead of healing it will boost a little defence of teammates and your self....1 slot point.....10 sec. Cooldown

Plz suggest if this weps need changes......

Thnx

 

Flare plus 2 blast
Flare EC sniper/standard cannon

No mortars on defenders please please.

Someone can squeeze in a big torp and carronades.

 

Problem is there aren't any good defenders most of them just hide of camp instead of dictating the play and making moves so it feels weak.
When speeder is distracting the opposition, defender just seat their instead of taking advantage. Whenever I see 2 defenders in my team I am like god we are losing this game because they come with funny builds like 2 Big Bertas etcetera.

 

All the top nm defenders go with that.
Agreed, and your suggestions are good too but couldnt really go with that statement that defenders are 'hurt' after the explo nerf. It was not even a damage nerf, and they are still doing pretty good with that combo, delivering huge damage (equivalent to a t5 epic railgun without critical) per explo cannon shot.

 

Wasn't even talking about buff. Just the opposite, that defenders are already good enough.

Those are the 'flexible' players you see at the very top, who have an arsenal of weapons, switching from explo to other weapons isnt a big deal for them, and i've faced many explo using defenders who deal great deal of damage with the twin explo + fg setup, so said.

 

Just gonna post a few screenshots whlie I support the idea of a buff for my boat, nothing drastic is really necessary. I don't use ec, and as you can see, my weapons are outclassed in every battle I participate in.

Mr Meaner

 

Give Defender 1 green slot for a tape?

 

Very nice performance, I'm a defender main user myself, and I'm using cannon-ex-sniper combo so the nerf didn't really affect my build as I can still dish out good dps and still maintain my infamy pre-nerf. Given your dual turbos, If I were to guess, your play style is not to charge into the enemies and be the bullet sponge, but rather you play your defender more like a shooter / enfo?

I have a feeling the ex-cannon nerf mainly affected the vast majority of NM flare-ex-ex defenders who used to YOLO charge into enemy territories, and despite their humongous hp, they still die fast due to all the unfriends focusing on taking them down, thus they needed to depend heavily on the pre-nerf fire ex-cannon dps to take out enemies before they die. So I suppose that's why we're seeing some defenders crying foul after the nerf, while other defenders are still doing respectably fine.

Having said all that, the defender is still one of the most highly un-popular ships, it certainly could do with a generic buff to ship acceleration, turret and ship rotation speeds at the very least.