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Why nerf to the ground?

Discussion in 'Game Discussion' started by Zusay, 14 Dec 2017.

  1. Ian

    Ian Well-Known Member

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    I just stopped using the combo a few days ago. Still was able to reach nightmare in mk5 with it, but it's just no longer any fun. I would just cruise around the map laying out torps and rarely going in to kill someone 1v1, maybe once every game or two. The frost was practically useless so I may of well have used nitro but I didn't have one at the time. Now I use explosive + blast until I can level a flare up, sad days :(. I liked the way it was before the patch to fix/buff frost, nobody complained about my torps then!
     
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  2. Zusay

    Zusay Well-Known Member

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    I don't see your point of view, why is nerfing a weapon to the ground satisfying? What's the sense of a combo when you can't use it at all? I surely was one of the people who thought frost torp was too overpowered, still i dont see any balance in this case. Why do they need to force players to use another setup after you have worked hard to get a high level torp/frost blaster? Why not nerf frost torp to a point where torps are still dodgeable? If it's for me at the current situation all those frozen damage crew trainings are useless as the combo is trash. Ofc the problem isnt the torp, it's the frost. I would not recommend nor use either frost blaster nor frost launcher atm!
     
  3. A55A51N

    A55A51N Well-Known Member

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    My answer to the question: because of whining, at least partly. The ”nerf frosttorp” thread had over 12 pages, and 3-4 active members on each side. Most of the whiners wanted an absolutely ridiculous nerf, and compared to them, the nerf is just a little unjust. But why it was nerfed so much, was really (i think) because no non- frosttorp user knew how much skill it required to run. If you looked just the data, it seemed way too op. And this is what devs failed to look at when they nerfed the combo imo.
    Edit: This is what you need to do if you want to run the combo now
    https://replay.battlebay.net/LCGLLZCJ#SKWKTJZM
     
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  4. Shadow Moon!

    Shadow Moon! Well-Known Member

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    No
     
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  5. Dvd2812

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    Lol, I scrapped my tier 4 rare frost launcher and a tier 2 epic big berta because of this nerf. Now I still run torp frost but that is the only set up I can use. Barely survived over 3k. I just hate people who whining about stuff that they never actually tried. I make my mini use what I hate (sniper cannon) and it worked so damn fine good that I wanted to scrap my blast cannon on my main. Never have a duplicate epic sniper. RNG just wanted me to use blast.
     
  6. EyeOfDoom

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    Aaaaaaand, that's why everyone hates sniper over here but that's for another thread.
     
  7. ViscountSniffit

    ViscountSniffit Well-Known Member

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    Satisfying a request is not the same as a satisfying feeling. Let’s not get into equivocation.

    I’m not sure what you mean by ‘my point of view’? Just to be clear, I never wanted frost nerfed in the first place (and I was never even a frost user).

    All I’m saying is that had the devs done exactly what you’re suggesting, and brought in a version of frost that was 100% balanced, then people would have continued to whine about frost being OP, and claimed the devs were incompetent, salt, more salt, etc...

    Hopefully, they’ll buff frost next update to make it usable again, and then no one will be able to complain about it needing more nerfing, because we’ve already seen ‘more nerfing’ (as in now) and it’s evidently too much.
     
  8. Zusay

    Zusay Well-Known Member

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    Hmm i see, well I have never asked for a frost nerf, still we all knew it was much needed (at least many of us thought like this) i just think the nerf was too harsh but if it's alright for players i don't mind it staying the way it is, i got another loadout which i already used whole frost torp was op, just wanted to collect opinions wheter it's just me feeling that the nerf was a bit harsh or others feel that way too.
     
  9. ViscountSniffit

    ViscountSniffit Well-Known Member

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    I agree, it was way too harsh, and made frost useless. It needs more balancing.
     
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  10. Olibooger

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    That is absolutely ridiculous.
     
  11. Ian

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    I think he means with speeder, which to some extent is true but I still don't fully agree with.
     
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  12. TheAntiSnipe

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    He uses torps on a speeder himself, I respect his opinion in the matter. Torps without frost on a speeder=very low firepower. Fact. But I'll still do it.
     
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  13. ViscountSniffit

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    When I ran torps on my speeder, I found I did quite good damage, but it was much harder to get kills. Sometimes you just need 100hp damage to finish of another speeder, and torps just make it way more difficult that it ought to be.

    At higher infamy when you’re meeting a lot more speeders, I can definetly understand why you wouldn’t want to run torps without frost.
     
  14. TheAntiSnipe

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    There's other ways to take out a speeder. Kiting, for example, or even alternating torps with a heavy blast cannon(which I already have at hand), no probs, m8!
     
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    @Eeyore
     
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    Them calculating devs!
     
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  17. TheAntiSnipe

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    Well, if you consider everything, evry time they handled game misuse and unbalanced weps, they did it long-term.

    Pretty smart bunch of coders they are.
     
  18. Riddlerpaji

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    Soon. Very soon or coming soon or might be soon all yellow ship will be diminish. There will be only shooter and defender. Fixer will stay somehow.
    As u can see most player are already leaving. ( Just my opinion)
     
  19. Ian

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    Oh yeah because that's how the devs envisioned the game, shooters and defenders ruling the game and picking off useless yellow boats for some reason. This is just their perfect vision right? Wrong lol they wouldn't let any boat die, that's not what their looking for so dw.
     
  20. Riddlerpaji

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    Ok
     
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