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Why do the Unfriends have often 1 stronger ship?

Discussion in 'Game Discussion' started by Flint, 15 May 2018.

  1. Flint

    Flint Well-Known Member

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    My cousin will get back to you. He wanted to use my account here, but that was not a good idea, so I deleted the post. Don't want to get his posts and my being mixed up.
     
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  2. Kurd1stan.

    Kurd1stan. Well-Known Member

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    Like i told you ,it is a bit unbalanced at low infamy , but never expected from any matchmaking to be 100% balanced , that is impossible , and also the matchmaking left only 1 mk difference between both team it can/shouldn't make the ETA longer for 8 players till it find a balanced match ,

    i know that you said 70% of your match are like that , but believe me mine too even for infamy , but at the end we had ~50% win ration like all other players , i was like and i upgrade to mk5 at 1.3k infamy , but now i see top players in matches
     
  3. Flint

    Flint Well-Known Member

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    I see the worst players at around a 1000, it is nuts. I see mk5 and mk6 doing 200 damage. If you look at my battle in my first post, you see I did more damage on my own with my mk4, than the 4x mk5s combined. But as I said, I see mk6 doing just 200. So, that means not even 1 full on hit.

    Often I lose, because people don't work together at all. 90% does not respond to commands in the game. And if some do say 'Yes' after I said 'Together', they still head in the opposite direction. Hard to get out of this league / Infamy range with teams like that.
     
  4. Kurd1stan.

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    I understand you , and i was having the same problem ,a lot of players had the smae problem , but that has nothing to do with matchmaking that is what i was trying to say ,players are the problem not BB ,
    Never listen to anyone who says "don't hate players , hate the game ".

    A little story:
    I stayed at 800 infamy for a very long time and then went and stayed at 1.3k infamy for a long time too , but then i won 13 matches in a row and reached 2k infamy ,then i got back to 1.7k , but i reached 2k again with no time , and then i stayed at ace III for a while ,then to ace II for only one season , and then i went to ace I ,
    and iam there for 2 months if not more , i will be in nightmare next season but i will get back to ace I after that for sure (i have exams ...)

    So what i mean is , couple of times you will stay at a certain infamy range
     
  5. Flint

    Flint Well-Known Member

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    Spas!

    You are right, it is hard to see the real problem here I must admit. But I was wondering also (that is why I posted this) is it just the sum of all the mk together with a discrepancy from 1 or maybe 2 mk?

    I did not post this, because I was losing, but why it happens and if it does make a difference 1 or 2 mk more. It seems it does, but I have been wiped away by a team with 5 mk less as well and won also if it was the other way around. But more often than not, my side loses if the other side has 1 bigger boat. It can just make the difference.

    Bi xatirê we!
    Flint
    (I have a Kurdish friend :) and know a few words )
     
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  6. WickEdDuck

    WickEdDuck New Member

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    Got my Phone working again, btw I am going to quit this game. The matchmaking is terrible. Played 2 battles today, because Flint asked me too. Killed in one shot again. I quit! Here are my screen shots:

    Screenshot battle highest inf.jpg Screenshot setup.jpg
     
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  7. YerJokinArnYer

    YerJokinArnYer MVP

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    1. You’re level 10 with full gold. I’m not sure why you haven’t upgraded to mk2.
    2. Look at all of the other shooters in your game. They all have a shield, you do not. Perhaps that is a better strategy especially when you’re a low mark ship?
    3. Erm, I’m pretty sure you’ve won the game 5-1 in your screenshot and have done a fair bit of damage. :confused:
     
  8. Kurd1stan.

    Kurd1stan. Well-Known Member

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    The matchmaking is bad but not that much , i have never seen any mk1 at 800 -1000 infamy , it is your situation what make it looks that bad , matchmaking isn't balanced ,but iam 90%surethat it can't be better , if you want to leave then leave it , because if you continue on playing you will know that it is a great game one of the best game ever , but it gives a bad experience due to some reasons thst has nothing to do with the game it self .
     
  9. Kurd1stan.

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    Matchmaking algorithm is balanced , but due to tanker , quest grinder , lack of players ...etc it turn into an unbalanced matchmaking , and maybe you have a bad luck with matchmaking .

    You just said "bye all " in Kurdish .;)
     
  10. Flint

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    Sorry, my Kurdish is not that good. I know how to pronounce it, but now I had to see how it was written and apparently I was wrong. I need more practising ;).

    About the battles, I do get why I lose so many battles, look at how little damage all the others do. I shouted 'Together' 20 times, but nobody cared or responded. So, again a loss! I hate it, but so many battles are like that. Nobody looks where the others are going, nobody responds, people who lets themselves be killed in 2 seconds, etc, etc. No matchmaking can fix this.

    But again one stronger ship on the Unfriends side, as 70-90% of the time:

    Bi xatirê te!
    (Hope this is correct)
    Flint

    Bad Screenshot_2018-05-15-18-55-11.jpg
     
  11. WickEdDuck

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    A mk2 is slower, but has only slightly more HP. I don't have a proper shield, only 120 HP. Not enough to make a difference. I get killed in one shot, even with a mk2. I see boats with T4 epic cannons with 4 crit perks, I see T4 epic torps. Then you really think I will survive with a 120 HP shield? Nope, not going to happen.

    This game is just designed wrong and I am not one to lose 30 battles in a row, because I get unequal battles and mk5'ers who cannot hit anything.

    I asked Rovio to delete my account. I am not going to grind another 4 months to get a mk5, so I am on par with my opponents. By that time I prolly battles mk7 and mk8 (if they excist).

    No, thank you.
     
  12. WickEdDuck

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    It is a great game, but it is flawed. I am not going to grind for months to get a mk5 so I have the same ship level as the people I face now. I proved myself, within 80 battles I was at 840, but since then I get killed in one single shot. Lost the will to play because of it and also because of the mk5 I play with who cannot hit a single thing. I have seen better mk1 players and mk2 than this lot.

    But that is just me. Hope you will enjoy it no matter what, but for me this is the end.

    Take care!
     
  13. Rainbow Warrior

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    Everybody has one or another game a little unfair usually because matchmaking seems to ignore the fleetmate (which is good because it'd be easy to exploit it if it considered fleetmate) and because of the lack of players with huge infamy, but there are so few "bad matchmaking battles" when we compare it with the "good matchmaking ones" that it makes me think that this issue is almost irrelevant at my infamy (3700).
    I just took a look at my last 50 battles (from 3900 to 3700) and I didn't see any sign of poor matchmaking causing my losses.
     
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  14. YerJokinArnYer

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    Your argument is not logical. You can’t argue that you shouldn’t be facing higher level ships, and then also say there is no point in upgrading to mk2 because it is not better than your mk 1. The only way to get a ship as good as there’s is to upgrade ship AND gear.

    You could also buy an uncommon big shield (or standard shield if you haven’t enough slots for big shield on a Mk2) for 50000 gold. Both would give more than 120 extra hp

    Plus, as I pointed out, you WON the match that you shared.

    I am trying to offer guidance to help you fight those higher level ships on less of an uneven basis, but if you won’t upgrade your ship or buy a better shield then you will never be able to fight them on a fair basis.
     
  15. Kurd1stan.

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    So you are having a bad team , a lot of times, or maybe there is a BUG in your account ,

    and that is why i want to reach nightmare ,most of them are good players , battles are so hard .
    The problem in the game is this :
    At first you will have unbalanced matchmaking (like till master II , 1.6k infamy )
    And then (from 1.6k-2.6k ) there are tanker, who loses on purpose to play with weaker players( that is what causes the unbalanced matchmaking at lower league) +unbalanced matchmaking

    And then from 2.6k-4k there are when p2w players meet f2p players , and that is a disaster and that is why f2p lose they drop in infamy and that lead to more unbalanced matchmaking

    But after 4k everything changes there , there you will know what is Battle bay , there is also all that unbalanced matchmaking , tankers , high/low gear score but not like otheres

    So it will became worse for a long time , and this game is really hard to grind , but with all of that you will still enjoy playing like everyone does ,

    Bye my friend , you re welcomed to our bay any time you want :);)
     
  16. Flint

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    You only proven that you can win at the beginning of the game. You have not proven to hold that positions. Yep, it can be unfair that you face mk5s, but it is what it is. If you really went for it, then and only then you can say you have proven yourself. (and not proved btw)
     
  17. Mr. Patel

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    To balance the team.
     

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