What should be done with sniper? Poll

Where is this idea coming from, that you should be able to take down an 8k shooter, using Sniper?

I run Blast and Explosive Cannon, and I often struggle to kill 4k shooters, with all the damage they put out.

If you’re killing 8k shooters with your sniper, then I think you need to check your privilege.

 

Ohh...so are you angry because i didn't remember that you are a shooter...my bad lol

 

No?

 

I have played with that guy many times, i reached 4000 with only the blast cannon. And i do consider myself a skilled player, and at least a good aimer.

 

Its not about that bro...read again
He said he said it doesnt matter crit. Or not When going against 8k shooter

 

Agreed and no offence meant.

I'll be on the lookout for that name on the bay if we play against each other someday.

One question though, no sniper?
Almost every shooter has one be it rare or epic. If anyone hits you you won't be able to hit them back. If you use a sniper you will be killing ships.

 

Yeah
Well i never started building a rare sniper, because i thought that i wouldn’t change my setup
And i have never found an epic one thanks to RNGesus

 

But that’s the same for BC and ExC.

When my primary weapon was a rare Blast Cannon, it felt like an exercise in futility going up against shooters. I’d often need to land 10+ shots to whittle them down, while they were able to kill me in 2-3.

That’s half the reason I post in these topics, because all those big shooters were running sniper. Which turned an unfair match-up into an impossible one.

 

The Whole Matchmaking System is broke...
Maybe because you get hit less by others weapons than sniper as a speeder..but for me all those weapons are op. I go against mk6 with tier 5 epic weapons, I m gonna die as mk5 rare user.
As for sniper I don't get hit by it too much and at close range ec n bc scare me more. Speeder are hard to hit by those at close range, maybe thats why your problem is just sniper. And carronade is not popular for a reason.
Sniper is a versatile weapon thats why it is being used so much not because its op.

 

And that’s exactly the reason why it needs to be nerfed! It’s too versatile without major drawbacks!
Arc
- still better than in railgun, its biggest rival
Not consistent damage
- sure, but in the long run surpasses every other cannon
So do you finally see our point? Because those 2 drawbacks are meaningless when compared to sniper’s abilities.

 

That arc makes all the difference in those huge waves. And its lesser than all other weapons except railgun which put hell lot more damage and have unlimited range
And
Inconsistent damage also matters because in real scenarios only few shots matters not long run.
Blast and ec still be close range king. And rail gun and missile can out damage sniper in long range.
Sniper is like jack of all trades. Well little better in long range offcourse.
If you ever actually use it, you will know.
I do suggest you exp. Sniper side before coming to conclusion to nerf it.

 

The obvious drawback for me is that it's a weak weapon without crits. Weakest compared to most weapons at same level. As a sniper user running a speeder, sniper is meant for shooters who have other weapons to compensate for it's low damage. Other boats are just asking for trouble including mine unless there is an OP weapon on you boat to cover for the lack of damage hence my EC/BT is more effective.

And more obvious than that is the fact that you don't get matched to the same players in consistent games so there is always a chance that someone with sniper will crit on you. Even if you nerf crit percentage the chances of getting crit hits every match does not change as a lot of players use snipers.

The most obvious drawback for me is that the defence points render normal shots useless with ships having 50-150 or more defence points piled up on shields meaning even low damage every match.

And the worst drawback for me is that for almost every match most of the damage for me comes either from the BT or EC. Sniper doesn't cover half of it even when it crits multiple times and I don't have anything else to replace it with.

 

It needs a nerf. I have used it as well as the other cannons and railgun and missle launcher. Take into account that both railgun and missle launcher are 2 point weapons and sniper is a one point weapon. Sniper is way too good once you get it to even 15% crit chance. You outrage EVERY weapon except the railgun (torpedoes if you wanna include them too) and waves won't matter from long range because as long as you have a level or higher ground than your enemy (even for a split second) you have an easy shot. The crit chance is ridiculous but the crit DAMAGE is atrocious.

 

The Speeder has quite a low turret, so ‘generally’ speaking, the arc on Blast isn’t enough to consistently clear waves. I usually won’t fire unless I have a straight shot, as it’s too much risk. So in practical terms, the arc doesn’t mean too much.

Projectile speed means a lot though. When I’ve run standard cannon on my Defender, there is pretty much zero risk of missing because of the vertical movement of waves. That’s a big problem with Blast and Explosive, and drives your accuracy way down.

What’s worse, that movement gets bigger the closer you are to the target, so even at point blank range, it’s easy to miss vertically.

You talk about consistency, but Blast doesn’t hit consistently. I’d much rather take the 400 damage from a non-crit sniper shot, than the zero damage from a complete miss with the Blast Cannon.

As for Railgun, it has a much longer cooldown. So for every Railgun hit you land, you can take two sniper shots, with a good chance of one being a crit.

I’ve actually got screen shots from a game I played against a speeder, running both weapons side by side (both t4 rares). The sniper hit more crits than the Railgun was able to fire shots, as well as an additional 3k in non-crit damage. And generally the sniper crits were bigger than the Railgun hits, because they are never reduced by range.

That kind of illustrates just how cheap the sniper is. Railgun is a two slot weapon, and the sniper outdamaged it (just on crits alone), for half the slot point cost.

How can it not be overpowered when it’s doing everything a Railgun can do (and more) for half the price?

 

Lool, noice pun.

 

You realize that means 55% want some kind of change, right? Even if they don't all agree with what the change should be, the number of people who want a change is actually more than those saying leave it alone. You just stated evidence against yourself.

 

Imagine that we choose the president, and among the many candidates John Johnson (*leave it alone) is in the lead. But we take and put in a bunch of all the other candidates, except John Johnson, and say that John Johnson lost. Because there are more candidates if you put their votes together
Convenient, is not it?))) you are aware that so no vote is not valid?)))

 

Except that we're not voting for president. You're concluding that the majority don't want a change because the others can't agree on a change. There's really only 2 sides here, though, the poll is just more specific for people who do want a change because not wanting a change is a singular stance.