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This happens way too often.

Discussion in 'Game Discussion' started by nosesabe, 22 Mar 2018.

  1. achillesRising

    achillesRising Member

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    ...You're an enfo, the highest-mobility class with the sickest dodges, and you get crit by mortar and direct hit by missile? Well obviously you aren't a difficult target for the sniper cannons, you were probably standing still.
     
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  2. Kaletheshavage

    Kaletheshavage Member

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    Lmao tags "balanced my balls", "fking sniper", "fking tired" someones salty/bad
    U just suck
     
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  3. Kaletheshavage

    Kaletheshavage Member

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    He was busy emoting negatives... Like they were gonna affect the battle in any way
     
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  4. _devill

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    Yeah I thought it would be good to use one crit damage but that reduces the crit chance even lower. I would rather use cannon damage perks on it for consistent damage. I tried to use it with EC and it doesnt work even though EC hits like a truck.
    The problem with rares is that they are considerably weak as compared to epics. If you look at epics to nerf a weapon its rare counterpart will become useless except for a few.
     
  5. TheAntiSnipe

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    You know my stand on the matter. Snipes are clearly not OP in NML. Instead of a nerf, some spreading of talents is really sufficient os that sniper cannon gets to it's 100% values later and not early on.
     
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  6. _devill

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    Agree with you bro. Spreading out the tree will save a lot of newbies in lower leagues. Sniper at full potential in lower leagues can definitely one shot a lot of boats.
     
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  7. ViscountSniffit

    ViscountSniffit Well-Known Member

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    Okay, thank you, I appreciate the time that you put into your response, and you’ve raised some interesting arguments.

    Rare sniper sucks
    This statement is somewhat relative. Compared to legendry sniper: yes it sucks. But compared to other rares, it hits full power much earlier in the game, and is pretty decent.

    Whether rare weapons are necessary in the end game is debatable. When I started playing, Epic weapons were hard to come by for f2p, but there have been a lot of changes since then. The guild raffle, weapon achievements etc... I don’t use Sniper or Big Torp, but I have both to Epic t3, and if I used them I could get both to t4, quickly, through the achievements. The days of having to compete in Nightmare with all rares are largely over I think.

    If I don’t crit, I only do 400 damage
    Count yourself lucky. I have plenty of games where I do zero damage.

    If the unfriends are sticking ‘together’ well, then it can be very difficult for me to get into Blast range, without taking thousands of damage (it’s practically suicide).

    If I do get in range, my Rare Blast might only do ~600 damage (or miss completely). I’d love to be able to hang back and get a consistent 400 damage, let alone 1100!
     
  8. WarCream

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    You see now why us enforcer needs double ts? ;) And btw you were playing reckless. You shouldn't have done that.
     
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  9. Blueee

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    Maybe a nerf for the more powerful sniper cannons, because with my sniper I barely get good crit hits..
     
  10. _devill

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    Agreed. Rare sniper is the one of the strongest weapons beside BT in early game. @TheAntiSnipe suggested the talent tree could be tweaked to counter this situation. Problem is everyone looks up to higher leagues and says this weapon is OP. While sniper is nowhere near OP even here in Ace 1 the call for nerf makes it unfair to weaken a weapon for end game. When everyone calls for a nerf, usually it ends up with the weapon getting destroyed or close to useless. We have a lot of examples since global launch, among which some almost left most of my setup obslete.

    I'm still trying to get to NM with rares. I guess I'll find out eventually if it's possible even now as F2P.

    Tbh this is what I thought at the start of my first Ace3 season. The damage may be consistent with a sniper, but is nowhere near strong enough to take down a fixer unless I get crits on sniper at the right time. Fixers are like crazy powerful with epic t4 and rare t5 heals which practically overwhelm your dps. This is the only reason I started using flare/EC instead of sniper BT. While flare may be current meta but it's hands down the most helpful thing for a speeder. You can damage an unfriend or reduce the heals from a distance while giving bonus to all you team weapons including your own. I'm still waiting to get an epic balst (with dupes if possible) to scrap my sniper and flare or maybe keep them for guild quests.
     
  11. ViscountSniffit

    ViscountSniffit Well-Known Member

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    I feel like that ‘should’ be beside the point, but I know that you’re completely right.

    My faith in Rovio being able to do a decent job of it, is zero. They always nerf stuff way too hard, and then leave it way too long.
     
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  12. envylife

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    Only if you have focused training on Sniper. If you have chosen BC talents, you will see the 1000-1100 range, which is relatively poor. I have yet to receive an epic Sniper, fairly jealous of everyone who has Epic and Legendary. In fact I'm just lacking enough Epics of any Canon type to compete beyond rare.
     
  13. Shadow Moon!

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    Obviously all talents on sniper. If you don't have all talents trained to sniper you can't say its balanced and poor. Those who have it's full potential know how ridiculously easy weapon it is and it's consistency is even more than previous frost torp.
     
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  14. envylife

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    If projectile speed was lessened to the point where it requires aiming, most of the complaints would disappear. Railgun works that way, but projectile speed doesn't have to be that slow.
     
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  15. Shadow Moon!

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    Railgun is super hard to aim and hit it. I use one. Even if they reduced the arc it would be fine, or reduced projectile speed will also be good.
     
  16. nosesabe

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    So many people focusing on the situation... Yes I got crit by the mortar but because I was trying to deflect it with my Tesla shield, and in that short period of time rockets were fired at me, which broke the shield and that’s why I got hit by the mortar.

    But this thread is about the sniper cannon. It’s really clear what’s about.

    Sniper cannon damage overpasses blast & explo cannon damage on he long run because of its high accuracy. The range makers ir deadly. All of it makes it overpowered
     

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