Things to never, ever, EVER use on speeder

BasedCarpen is a freakin' god with his mortars.

Duuude, rail snipe is AWESOME!

 

A "god with his mortars" that is under 3k infamy and isn't even playing as a mortar Speeder anymore. Now playing Missile Defender. So clearly it wasn't so godly.

Mortars on a Speeder is not a good idea. It is usable, but it will not come close to competing with a meta Speeder.

I believe Raven primarily plays Shooter. We are talking about Speeders here. Edit: just read Raven's thread about his Speeder. It's an interesting setup and can obviously do lots of damage (if your items are high level...). I'd challenge that Raven and his awesome weapons could probably make almost any setup work on any ship. I'd also say that in those same games that he got the streak, he probably could have done at least that well using his Shooter setup. Maybe better.



To the OP... you are correct on the mortars. They are not good on Speeders. Don't care who has used what and done something with them. That is a bad combo.

Missiles and Railgun are slightly better on a Speeder than mortars, but they are still not ideal. Only use them if that is all you've got. I don't know why people are disagreeing with you like these are the meta weapons. The players that use these two are the exceptions, not the rules.

Missiles are not great on Speeders because they are inconsistent. When you only have 2 weapons, you need 2 that are guaranteed to hit. Shooters use Missiles well because they have 4 other weapons to pop off.

The Railgun is not great on a Speeder for 2 reasons. Firstly, the reduction for close-range hurts Speeders, who mostly play at close range. Secondly, the Speeder has the lowest turret height by far, so it has the most difficult time shooting over waves. A Sniper Cannon is almost always a better choice on a Speeder than a Railgun.

You do realize that video was from over a year ago and before global launch, right? That video is pretty irrelevant at this point.

 

"So many speeders" are not running Big Torps. Almost all of them now run the Flare + Blast/EC setup. That is due to reliability. Big Torp used to be so popular because the frost torp combo made it ridiculously reliable (and super powerful) so it was almost a guaranteed hit. I also never said Big Torp is bad on a Speeder.

And Mine is a different story. Again, never said Mine was bad on a Speeder. Area control weapons are in a different category as they aren't "guaranteed hits", but they do provide "guaranteed area control". That is where their reliability comes from. If you are using a Mine on a Speeder, your other weapon better be somewhat reliable.

I probably should change the "guaranteed hit" to "reliable weapons." Mines are very reliable, just in a different way. Big Torp used to be and some are still using it effectively. Missiles are not. Railgun can be reliable, but unless you have Raven's T5 Epic, a Sniper is usually a better choice.

There are lots of players that are using off-meta setups effectively. I am one of them, as I don't run double Bubble on my Mk6 Enfo and I use a Swift Torp. It's my favorite weapon. I just hit NML today (yay), so it can still be used effectively, but I definitely would have hit it sooner with a Flare + Double Blast.

Just the whole thing. It shows him using the weapons well, but back then it was harder to hit Speeders and his Tesla Bolt was much stronger. That setup now won't work as well and a Speeder using those items would not fare well.

 

Players can use whatever they want and be effective, up to a certain point. Once you reach a level of similar competition, the player with the more meta setup generally wins. It's as simple as that. If that wasn't true, then there wouldn't be a "meta".

 

Yea that is very effective. I do see more Flares on Speeders than Grenades, so I'd consider the Flare to be a bit more meta. But I also have a really hard time using a Grenade on a Speeder for some reason.

If I had my choice weapons on a Speeder.. I'd be running double Blast for sure. Benefit from everybody else's Flare/Fire Bomb and do 3k+ damage in an instant.