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The P2W (and Loot Box) Reckoning

Discussion in 'Game Discussion' started by Jammo, 5 Dec 2017.

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  1. Joey who

    Joey who Well-Known Member

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    Yes.
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  2. D3X

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    The exodus after the nerfing on both Frost and Fire damage.
     
  3. Crashedup

    Crashedup Well-Known Member

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    I saw bunta playing in kenzer's latest video
    Maybe he recorded it before this season
     
  4. Crashedup

    Crashedup Well-Known Member

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    Or lack of new content can be the reason
    Tpro is quitting too announced it on yt
    From cmnts it seems like lack of new content is the reason
     
  5. Stonebanks

    Stonebanks Well-Known Member

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    Yes, kenzer is uploading old stuff
     
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  6. Joey who

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    He shows replays from months ago
     
  7. - Oskar -

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    ...no new updates, no new items, no new maps, worst matchmaking... so people have enough.
     
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  8. TheAntiSnipe

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    Making the guild wars update, then killing the only thing that made it attractive, the raffle RNG. How idiotic is that? If there's any guild leaders here, tell me: Do you feel incentivized to lose tons of infamy for 42k tokens of CRAP? 50CS, my guild, quit questing, we play for fun now, at least on the guild point of view. MMR is okay to me, progression, again, killed by the patch after the guild wars update. Why do they even bother?

    Also, edit: Devs, YOU KNOW you nerfed the raffle RNG. Don't you say that we are "unlucky". We stood first in seven rivalries, and reaped astronomical rewards. I got enough epic burn perks to set up my flare+blast combo, plus enough waste perks to build a mk5 defender. BRING THE OLD DAMN RNG BACK, not the pearls, but the old, fair drop rates.
     
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  9. Help I Cant Swim

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  10. Mangchi

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    Yup. Saw friend go through 60 raffles. Raffle landed on perks a total of 5 times lol. There were 4 perks total on the board. By the end of 60 raffles, he got one green perk for each 4, and one rare.

    The bonus round? He got leg parts x 4, and pearls x 1.

    How is that for RNG?
     
  11. Dvd2812

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    CR is now included draft chest and lighting chest which help you choose the cards you want in a higher rate. CR developer team successfully reduced the luck in their game, which is now based more in skills.
    Here are some examples:
    -Tournament cap and events: completely fair and skill based.
    -Chest drop from battles: can be predictable in clashroyalestats.com, player now can know exactly when a legendary chest drop
    -Chest (overall): less RNG because the introduction of drafting chest. Most of their chest are valuable and cost less money.
    -Rewards: more cards in higher league, less cards from chests in lower leagues
    -Matchmaking: sometimes it looks into cards level, not king level
    -Specific for F2P: free stuff in shop, free chests, quest that can be easily done and free gem. Everything can buy by gold, high reward in tournament and quest.
    -For P2W: not much different, skills still required and it won't cost over 1 mil $ to maxed out.
    - there are more but I am not mentioned
     
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  12. Jammo

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    The silence from the devs on this topic is deafening.
     
  13. ViscountSniffit

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    Not really, it’s their policy not to comment on things like future updates and business practices/pricing. And a very sensible policy it is too.
     
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  14. envylife

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    RNG is definitely less random than I would like. Lately they have been heavily pushing Fixer perks and pieces in the last 4+ guild raffles, at least, without acknowledging the imbalance they created for fixer in the end game. The current raffle, for example, has 3 slots for pieces...2 green and 1 red, and out of 90 raffle draws I got 21 green pieces but only 3 red, when odds would average me out at 8 red, as if they are loading up slots with Fixer items and tweaking the RNG towards those items on top of that. The problem is simply this: What's the point of promoting Fixer so heavily if you ultimately need to toss it to get in the top 50? Devs struggle mightily trying to balance ships at each level, a problem that should be addressed before slanting the guild raffle like that.
     
  15. *JAWS*

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    Rng is a joke. Also experienced raffle that is heavily slanted towards fixer.
    The fact you can't get what you want or what u need except thru rng is crazy.
     
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  16. EyeOfDoom

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    The only thing I don't understand is how all the p2w whales get hold of all epic perks so quickly. They can pay for items but perks are totally random and can only be acquired through in game currency and yet I see so many whales even the ones with considerably less playtime than f2ps running full 4 epic perks on all tier 4 epic items (which is 1 extra epic perk per item).

    I have been playing since May and I'm yet to see a single epic shield HP, epic burning damage, epic cannon damage or epic turbo perk in the shop. I'd snap buy them if I ever get a chance. And when I see p2w whales with less playtime than me running around with 10+ epic shield perks and 8 epic burning perks, I just can't help to wonder whether shops are truly fair for everyone
     
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  17. Stelmo

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    @EyeOfDoom the same way they get resources to build all of their gear. They refresh the shop, a lot.
     
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  18. EyeOfDoom

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    Yes but I have also noticed more expensive shop refreshes bringing better perks. So I'm still doubting whether the shop system is fair for everyone.
     
  19. Stelmo

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    Haha, I wouldn't know anything about that:)
    Everything in this game is geared to give advantage to the wallet warriors though, so I wouldn't be surprised.
     
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  20. Miku Da Yo 39

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    Playing this game is like trying to win the lottery. I hope this game doesn't create a new generation of lottery addicts. A full RNG game should never be connected to gameplay. Cosmetics would have worked just fine. Then again, Google doesn't allow a black market like steam :/
     
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