The only thing I really disliked about this last update...

Wtf frost torp is not nerfed? Lol. Do we play same game?

 

Wayward has become worse than chill zone a good map destroyed in this map fix it so that the teams are now able to mortar the enemy from one spawn pt to another.

 

I still want subzero crash and burn chill zome should have more ceilings and mortar use made skill based not hide and spam.

 

That's the right one. We did win but we had to retreat luckily finding a solid wall. Every time I ventured away from that wall the mortars flew. In fact 2 mortars came at us within 8 seconds of the start of the battle.

 

No it's not. Maybe not to the extent of before but you can still frost someone and blast them with a big torp or multiple big berthas.

 

Yes! Of course!

That must be exactly the reason that my entire team is at the spawn point and I'm engaging the enemy closely on pretty much every map except wayward pains. In my experience that vast majority of players prefer long-range wars of attrition. It is commonplace to have 1.5 minutes out of a 5 minute match go by with no enemy engagement (except mine of course). In my experience, most players engage in close combat only when forced to and some won't do it under any circumstances. So player preference plays a part here.

But another part is simply the overwhelming power of AOE weapons in this game. Sure, in my speeder I can generally dodge and weave through most of them but shooters and defenders have no such ability. If they want to cross an empty water zone they are going to get pummeled in the process. This mismatch in power is pretty evident just by looking at the final damage done screens and then observing which shooters had heavy mortar loadouts and which had heavy cannon ones. It becomes glaringly obvious with firebomb.

I doubt they are going to change weapon balance at this point. So I miss the old wayward pains which was the one map which truly demanded what I think of as "actual combat". It is still, however, my favorite map (along with Chill Zone) because it at least allows for close combat without taking insane risks.

 

That's what was great about it. It forced you to get close and do battle. It's near impossible to get close with the mortars flying so I switched to dual sniper.

 

You know it's still not a total loss. Sure mortar spam is an awful lot more common there but there are still a ton of hidey- holes and corners to come out of.

 

You can't because it breaks in 1 shot.

 

Hey @Help I Cant Swim , can you add a poll here? I remember when wayward pains was everyone's favorite map (at least among us forum users) https://forum.battlebay.net/threads/what-maps-do-you-love-to-play-on.15977/
I just don't love Wayward Pains anymore

 

Although i never liked wayward pains, (now or then its still a pain) No map should restrict the usage of any weapon, otherwise whats the point of having different weapons.
It would be unfair to the mortar users in the old wayward and maybe thats why the devs considered remaking the map.
Now others can't blame those mortar users because its their freedom of choice what to choose. If not the mortar/airborne class should have been well excluded from the game.
Enforcers, shooters with full airbone loadouts (missiles/firebombs/napalms/mortars) would be useless in the previous map. On the other hand some take advantage of this map with torpedoes. So i dont see why the change was bad, after all whats the point in having those weapons too?
Every map should support all weapons. Considering the old wayward map, if an all mortar user consistenly gets picked into that map he would have a tough time (but whats wrong with that when people go all torps, all cannons etc) and since picking up of maps is random, he may get more of that map too. Then wouldn't it be unfair to them?
Think of it in all ways, should be fair as each map should support all weapons equally.

 

Yes please. I want this even if they don't give us the 10 second switch window. As you say, just for convenience alone in the existing game this would be a huge boon.