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TDM Matchmaking seems to be broken this round

Discussion in 'Game Discussion' started by envylife, 8 Jun 2018.

  1. TheAntiSnipe

    TheAntiSnipe Moon's haunted

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    I'm not a dev, but I think it might be his ship mk causing it.
     
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  2. Kitterini

    Kitterini Well-Known Member

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    While Im a fan of colourfull language, its perhaps abit harsh to call someone a retard because the matchmaking engine put you both in the same match. How is that his fault? :)
     
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  3. Rainbow Warrior

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    It is a gear score based matchmaking, there's no way to make it balanced, you'll have a 11k gear score player who still didn't learn to play being destroyed by a 8k player who know what he/ she is doing.
    Forumers and players asked for this horrible matchmaking idea, devs gave us what was recquired. No matter how hard they work on this formula, it'll always be unbalanced (except for new players, I guess).
     
  4. envylife

    envylife Well-Known Member

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    That was just an example. Another example: The obvious measure for a Tesla Shield is HP and Duration... which is a factor of the item level, perks and training. The numbers are simple and available right there on everyone's item page.
     
  5. envylife

    envylife Well-Known Member

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    To be clear, the only imbalance should be skill and bringing the right items/boat to the right battle (which is RNG). This is how other team deathmatch games work: Everyone brings equal equipment to battle.
     
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  6. BattleRascal

    BattleRascal Well-Known Member

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    The good news is that it was hinted on the BattleBay YouTube show last night by GrimRepair that we might see some "equal equipment" events forthcoming. Not sure when.
    For me personally this would be the most fair and would solve and unbalanced gear score problem.
    Everyone is given Mk6 ships with Tier 4 Epics(as an example). How you outfit the ship is upto you. There would be no delays to matchmaking, since every player has the same equipment score. The only difference between the ships is the captain's(your) skills as a player.
     
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  7. envylife

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    I wonder what that means? I was under the impression that Gear Score is, by definition, a measure of "equal equipment." The question is whether or not it is reflective of the item's power (a factor of training and perks). I'd really like the ability to play with lesser boats, lesser items and be creative about the loadouts to reflect a more simple time... even if it was an equal infamy match, I would enjoy playing in an all MK3 shooter match, for example... we are currently hindered by lack of ability to downgrade boats to do that. Maybe this is an effort to put together something like that?

    To be honest though, the more I've played in this latest event, I'm finding most matches to be very competitive outside of the sporadic headscratchers, examples of which I brought up in this thread. This is the first event that I've been able to consistently use my main boat (Shooter) and be fairly successful... and that is regardless of how I equip it, low or high gear score. I run primarily T5 rares but prior events I was constantly going against T5 Epics... this time around my win rate is very acceptable and matches are regularly ending in 10-9 scores. I feel that Yellow boats are again disadvantaged, and it's primarily a Shooter/Defender event. Fixers can be successful, but ONLY if the team stays with the Fixer. It's REALLY important that players understand that, else they will lose.

    When I get time I'll dig up the infamy and captain levels of those matches I mentioned so that we can see the full picture.
     
  8. Ænima

    Ænima Active Member

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    I haven't won a single TDM this event, definitely working as intended.

    Edit: As soon as i posted this won two in a row, never mind!
     
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  9. Mr. Patel

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    Even i kow colourful languages but it's his fault as his weapons were really dumb and at level 41 and mk6 ship and at 27 infamy directly qualifies for retardness. Players like that ruin others game and its totally inappropriate..
     
  10. TVNPryde

    TVNPryde Well-Known Member

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    It's really offensive to call someone such name. You sound like you're a very good player. You probably never play badly in any battle. You should ask Rovio to create a league just for people like you.
     
  11. *JAWS*

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    Screenshot_20180610-151640.png

    Matchmaking is 1st Gear score. Once every boat on bay hits battle.

    Game starts looking during 1 minute to sort out teams. Out of that pool of players...
    Then 2) mk level boat
    3) infamy

    All of these together come into play regarding the latest TDM 5vs5.

    All of the above has been confirmed recently thru developer comments. Each event has gotten a different formula to date and keep evolving.

    The forumula is primarily slanted towards Gear score first. But then the other factors wheigh into team A verse team B. And whi gets put on which team.

    Developers have stated they are constantly updating this formula to make a more fair Deatmatch experience.


    Lastly... if u want stars. Do top 2 in damage on your team. Win or Lose. U will 95% get 1 star.

    Just my 2 cents. All of this I peiced together from most recent comments anytime someone smarter than myself has written in forums.
     
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  12. Gnu

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    More like balanced...
     
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  13. Mr. Patel

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    it not I am the best player. Bad things happens some time but not always. 27 infamy and level 41 captain doesn't make any sense to me.
     
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  14. TVNPryde

    TVNPryde Well-Known Member

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    27 or 2700?
     
  15. Mr. Patel

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    It is 27..
     
  16. Cavy

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    That's a joke right?
    If you Get a lvl 50 captain to fit out an mk 4 defender with lvl 30 items and have a captain lvl 20-30 fit identical items to his my 4 defender they'll have the same gear score yes but but those two boats are far from equal!
    The lvl 50 players crew training will buff every stat on each item by at least 50% some stats even more! Lol how are they equal?
    If crew training makes no difference then why are there 30 lvl's and not just 4? 1 to unlock each tier
     
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  17. TVNPryde

    TVNPryde Well-Known Member

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    I have nothing else to say beside don't call people retarded.
     
  18. envylife

    envylife Well-Known Member

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    Turns out it's not possible to get this info... The event battle result page don't save GS or Infamy... and captain levels don't necessarily correspond to specific item training. I checked all this at the time of the battle, but tried to stick to gear score for this conversation. At this point the event algorithm seems to be a lot closer to the main infamy algorithm than to gear score according to what *Jaws* relayed to us.
     
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  19. ryanllts

    ryanllts Active Member

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    when 2 people have same gear score, their health and damage output could be at least 3x differ, do the math before you say anything you donno
     
  20. Ænima

    Ænima Active Member

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    How is this even possible? Is this a purchased account or something? You'd have to keep purchasing sugar to level your captains yet you never play? Something seems off...
     

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