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Nerf *superawesome* frost torps

Discussion in 'Game Discussion' started by Zombie, 28 Oct 2017.

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  1. ViscountSniffit

    ViscountSniffit Well-Known Member

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    Tesla Shield needs a lot of crew training to be anything more than a stop gap.

    And if repositioning yourself and bandage is so easy, why don’t you try that against frost torps? Oh yeah, you have to be alive to do that...
     
  2. behumble

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    Its not just shooters that want this frost blaster nerf. (not frost launcher, that works fine)
    Fixers, defenders, enforcers....probably even some speeders.
    Look, not being able to move at all is simply over powered.

    Nobody was complaining when they were frosted and could still move enough to perhaps dodge a torp, but now its like you are cemented to the water, even with overboost.
    Big dmg = big risk
    Keep it that way
     
  3. EyeOfDoom

    EyeOfDoom Well-Known Member

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    Because yellow items are most unbalanced BS in the game. You should be grateful that they're not rebalancing your bolt again even after multiple reports of glaring bugs like post stun heals and unregistered shots.
     
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  4. Zombie

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    Now you see my point!
    Nerf that crap
     
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  5. Jerbears

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    Thanks Zombie for this post! I usually run shooter mk5. Had a speeder guild quest to complete yesterday so I equipped my t2 epic Big torp and LEVEL 1 epic frost blaster. Was worried I would drop in infamy since I'm at 2600ish and I've never really played speeder before. To the contrary I started winning a higher percentage over about 40 games. Blast cannon is my main weapon from my shooter that crit for 1500+ at 9% chance. In some cases between landing the big torp and blast crit I would 1 shot shooters before they even realized I was there. The crazy part about all this is I don't even have perks attached to my frost blaster and its level 1. It must be sooo easy to land with a good one. Might finally reach 3k+! whoop whoop, don't nerf yet dev's! :D
     
  6. EyeOfDoom

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    Let them make some money off of selling op frost blasters. Then they can nerf it. But then again, you don't need anything more than level 1 rare so I'm not sure how effective marketing strategy would that be. :D
     
  7. Jerbears

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    Forgot to mention my speeder is mk4 ... so yeah you don't need much :cool:
     
  8. Disguised

    Disguised Well-Known Member

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    Well, @YSL's legendary lvl10 big torpedo did around 4k(even exactly 4k once) damage in his videos. RNG · Bunta now has a legendary tier 4 if not tier 5(haven't check lately), and that might as well do 5k damage.
     
  9. ViscountSniffit

    ViscountSniffit Well-Known Member

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    Which is fair enough, but as with all the other yellow items that got nerfed, this problem only affects the top 1% of the game, running legendary level items. Yet the nerf will be felt all the way down the ranks, where yellow items are barely worth taking (before captain level 30). My Tesla Bolt was only 6 seconds when it got nerfed.

    FYI I’ve been frosted quite a few times since the update, an it isn’t even close to OP at my level. While sniper crits are rediculous. Yet every update that gets ignored and another yellow item gets nerfed.
     
  10. ViscountSniffit

    ViscountSniffit Well-Known Member

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    Well it’s exactly the same with sniper crits, you can’t outrun a sniper bullet, even while overboosting.

    I’d actually really like to run a rudder on my ship, but I can’t go into battle with anything less than a t3 shield, when I’m having to tank shooters for 10 of my shots, and they’re dishing out 900+ damage per hit (my ship’s base hp is 1300).
     
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  11. Miku Da Yo 39

    Miku Da Yo 39 Well-Known Member

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    They don't necessarily have to nerf Frost, they can make it so that status cannot stack. If you are stunned and they frost you you get destunned, if you are burning and they stun you you lose the burn. etc. That is enough of a nerf to give you a chance to dodge or heal up a frost torp. With a high lv OB or nitro you can dodge frost torps but if they can stack stun and frost then you are screwed. So no you just need to nerf the status stacking. Frost blaster should naturally slow more than Launcher IMO
     
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  12. The Otherguy

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    Lvl 1 Legendary is slightly less than lvl 32 Epic. Lvl 50 rare does slightly less than lvl 1 Legendary.
    Line chart torp dmg.PNG
    https://battlebayitems.com/
     
  13. Miku Da Yo 39

    Miku Da Yo 39 Well-Known Member

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    NOTE: same status can stack, but different status should not be allowed to stack
     
  14. OurTeamIsNoob

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    lol at mk6 im gonna use my epic rudder so welp torps
     
  15. Ian

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    Gonna respond in order of paragraphs. Also, I am in no way saying big torp combo is WORSE or BETTER than flare combo, I'd just like to state some reasoning because it seems you think it's more overpowered than it really is. I understand why people would think it's op when getting hit by it.
    a) you say that big torp combo deals upwards of 6k in 2 hits whereas flare EC combo deals ~ 4100 in 2 hits. Well this is just wrong in the sense that it's not just 2 shots, you need to 1) stun (usually in order to guarantee safety, at least this is what I do and I have lots of experience with this combo) 2) frost 3) big torp 4) other weapon. So really it's 4 shots, not 2. And with the other loadout you can tesla shield for safety, then stun after the first shots if you want for extra safety and to leave them unable to fight back.
    b) Well I just counted all the speeders load outs in the top fifty, and it was 5 torpedo users to 17 non torpedo users... Not quite 10;1 ratio like you stated.
    c) I agree that frost is too powerful atm. Wouldn't mind a nerf so that it's more challenging for top players with op glue guns. atm I'm just using t3 rare but it's annoying seeing other people do same thing as me only 3x easier.
    Also, unregistered cannon shots? Really that's an argument? You just missed.
    Also, they really need to fix the repair bolt cancelling frost glitch, it doesn't actually remove the slow.
     
  16. xxxBISMARCKxxx

    xxxBISMARCKxxx Well-Known Member

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    I just wanted to say that last night someone frost blasted my defender and then missed the torpedo lol.
     
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  17. Shadow Moon!

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    Lol at mk5 level around 2000-3000 nobody can one shot shooter minimum hp of shooters is 4000. Rookie mistake?
     
  18. A55A51N

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    And around 3500-4000, frosts torps deal maximum 4500 dmg. If you are oneshotted, bad luck, because it has been a mk6 speeder with a t5 epic and maxed perks and talents.
    Usual dmg of a frost torp is 2000-3000
    and that should only oneshot speeders without shields
     
  19. Shadow Moon!

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    And it is quite hard to use FB because of its straight trajectory and speeders low profile its hard to get that green dot. But when it hits it must be taken advantage of.
     
  20. ViscountSniffit

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    I was messing around today with frost+torp, to see what the fuss was about, and I couldn’t hit anything with either the frost or the torp. Then without my Tesla Bolt I just got shredded by other speeders, so I switched back to my usual setup.
     
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