Nerf sniper!!!

Ok, please take note of this shot guys.

EC doing almost 3.3k CRITICAL WITHOUT FLARE !! Epic T5

Why are ppl worried about sniper cannon lol!

 

Solid

 

Every cannon can critical. Picking on one, ie sniper seems...short sighted.
This game needs no more nerfs.
It needs buffs. Under used Ships, underused weapons.

Nothing else.

And fixing matchmaking.

Calling out of specific weapons for nerfing. Just comes off weird now.
This game needs players to survive. We don' need any more frost overreaction nerfs.

They messed up frost with current nerf. Going too far.

Those that cry for...now sniper to be nerfed. Play this forward. What if they mess up and make it un playable? Do u want every sniper user to quit the game? If ur meta is right? You will piss off almost everyone. Ie. Whole gaming community will revolt.
Honestly I am at a point I would never spend a dime again on this game with how random certain nerfs. Happen because of whining on forums and then overraction by devs.

Point to note. I was against the frost nerf. And I play defender. I am against the sniper nerf. Now. And think those that have an issue. Get stronger. Or change tactics. And better yet. Ask for buffs on underused. Weapons and underused ships.

 

No, im not saying that. I’m saying that those ships have versatile options to deal with it. They have good attributes and proprieties that shooters don’t have.

Enfo can switch engines from full ahead to full astern quickly, we can’t deny that.
Speeders has nitro, boosts Tesla shield.
Defender has large number of blue slots, big shields, reduced hits, etc.

Now, what does shooter has ?
I’d say they are the most difficult ship to play with.

Pros: Great number of red slots.
Cons: Slow speed and turrent; slow rate of turn, slow rudder. No Tesla shield, no Tesla stun, low-mid defense attribute.

You see, it can be very aggressive, but it also Won’t have many options to prevent damage.

I’d say that a perfect ship for BB is the shooter balanced with turbo, gear lube, rudder, big shield lol. That was on purpose, it can’t have tons of advantages since it has the major red slots of the game.

 

Both the nightmare player arguing are right in their shoes.With speeders who have Tesla shield and 5-6k HP easily sniper is the only counter.Allow speeder to get near you and you are dead.I have faced against difficult speeders,and that is my take

In ACE league,it does it need rebalance.Not beacuse it is overused,Dont throw that snapshot in face(LRM is more used than most of the heavy weapons,So ssly only end game snap shot is accurate description).

Nerf can be applied in various ways like decreasing projectile speed which makes sniper extremly agile.Making talents hard to achive until end game.And make Cap crit chance at 30%..

Nerfs like Rail--Gun that have been suggested have serious impacts,0% at close range really?Its almost impossible to HIt above ACE-1 players At long range

You cant nerf a weapon just beacuse it kicks ass in ACE-2.See what happned to Fixers because of ace noobs(I m ace league player) complaining about them!!!

I do think sniper needs a slight balance considering it has terrific projetile speed.Changes that i already suggested in begning of post

Only endgame snapshot matters,I ditched enfo for shooter because i knew which boat is better end game.Every smart player plays and upgrade ships for endgame

 

You're wasting a lot of effort trying to educate these people who will just make another duplicate thread when they fail to accept facts and realize the sniper is balanced with every other type of cannon.

 

That’s utter BS. Low-mid defense? Slow? Pfff!

Shooters shouldn’t have any extra defense. No other ships get significant defense, apart from Defender, and defender pays a huge price for it’s ability to tank.

Shooter gets an almost broken number of weapons, and then gets huge hp and defense stats to boot, and it’s not even that slow. Turboed shooters are scary fast. It’s like the Mary Sue of boats.

The only ship that even stands a chance against a shooter 1v1 is the speeder, and that’s only by using a lot of tricks, and dodging. Shooter doesn’t need to do any of that, it just sits back and unloads shot after shot... doesn’t even need to pay attention to cooldowns. It’s the easiest ship by far. All you need to do is keep pressing shoot, and the ship’s stats take care of everything else for you.

The amount of noob shooters at high infamy is a disgrace: can’t lead shots, can’t stick with thier team, spammy builds, and yet they’re still owning everything.

If shooter were hard to use (which it should be) then it wouldn’t be used more than all the other ships combined (even as high up as Ace league). The only time Speeders start to outshine it, is in the very late ultra-whale part of the game, which most ftp players will struggle to ever reach, let alone ‘compete’ in.

 

It has the same cooldown and slot point cost as BC. So that part is balanced.

With the high crit chance it probably averages around the same damage (might even be higher). But so far that’s balanced too.

But then it also has much greater range, projectile speed, and accuracy. What does BC have to balance that out?

Sniper is objectively better.

 

Please read all the other sniper threads, I won't waste my time explaining the pros and cons of sniper and blast cannon because it has all been said before. You can check out the links I sent in the first few pages of this thread.

 

I’ve read them, and there isn’t an answer there.

You said it was balanced with other cannons, so I’m asking you now, what does BC have to balance out all that extra range and accuracy (that I haven’t already mentioned)? What could it possibly have? You don’t have to explain ‘all the pros and cons’ just one thing.

I think you’re just avoiding the question because you don’t have an answer.

 

Most horrendous thing i have ever heard sorry! I support sniper nerf,But if you havent seen a shooter owned 1 vs 1,Then i will have to say you never played this game

Shooter is a strong boat when team is alive,Weakest when it dies.

1) A rushing defender(If defender uses flare+explosive,I will say it will own any shooter 1 Mk higher than it.I have myself done that Twice)

2) A fixer eating box or having 1 duct installed

3) Even the bugged enfo with a good tesla shield Can own a shooter

Shooter's strenght is team,5 weapons are utterly useless again yellow items and High HP.All this applies after mk5+....

I have to agree this,blast has quite the flaws and it was scaled down indirectly.Sniper needs balancing for sure to make it bearable at low levels.At higher level it doesnt matter,because the gameplay is vastly diff...

 

Perhaps you’re right. But generally, that hasnt been my experience, and the other three boats are underrepresented at every stage of the game.

 

Two factors for that

1)Overpowered shooter Till mk4(Defender and enfo literally crap),So people get overtly used to them (Going to make a thread about it as soon as exams are over)

2)Since game is based on teamplay,shooter are strong.

My arguments were totally based on 1v1 scenario.

 

IT HAPPENING. EVERYBODY CALM DOWN!!!

Edit: And they all left. No update this time.

 

+1
I'm a sniper user myself, and I think it really needs some rebalancing to make it less powerful in average damage compared to the blast (end-game). Probably the best way is to reduce the max critical chance. But that would make mid-game sniper totally useless. So to compensate, the base dmg of sniper needs to be increased.

 

shooter is not OP, if you look at global rankings, hardly any pure shooter in top 20... assuming all ships are fully upgraded, a shooter can't take on a properly built defender alone, it can hardly beat a good speeder/enforcer, let alone a highly skilled one. Shooters look OP because that's how they are supposed to be perceived, 5 guns and 2nd highest base HP, but excluding the fixer, they are the 2nd easiest ship to kill. catch a shooter out of position and it will sink fast. The shooter shines in team play because they can't thrive without good teamwork.