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Nerf sniper!!!

Discussion in 'Game Discussion' started by Zusay, 25 Nov 2017.

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  1. ViscountSniffit

    ViscountSniffit Well-Known Member

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    I think that’s absolutley what should happen. Long range snipers shouldn’t be permitted such a powerful shot range hit, without spending any slots (at all) on short range weapons.

    Another possibility would be to reduce the amount you can lead the sniper shot, or have it reduce turret speed. That would make it harder to hit targets that are close, and would give ships a realistic chance of defending against the shot by keeping moving.

    If you’re stationary then fair enough, you probably deserve to get sniped, but if you’re actively trying to avoid it then it shouldn’t be so easy. I often get hit mid Nitro which is rediculous.
     
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  2. Shadow Moon!

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    Yes I agree. But the consistency is too damn high that is what is causing uproar from all players. I use sniper I have crit chance of 37.5% and sometimes I crit 3 shots in a row 3k plus damage in 3 shots, without being in range. I call that not balanced. My suggestion is to cap crit chance make it dependent on skill and luck like frost torp.
     
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  3. vis1234567899

    vis1234567899 Well-Known Member

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    i have barely ever seen blast cannon crit, like only today did i see it crit a lot, somehow it doubled in damage lol
     
  4. Babablacksheep

    Babablacksheep Well-Known Member

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    Suggest your ideas before grim repair arrives tho:D
     
  5. TheAntiSnipe

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    We are being constructive, unabusive and there's no name calling. Civilized thread=no thread moderation.
     
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  6. Shadow Moon!

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    Oh the scary grim hammer :confused:
     
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  7. CaffeinatedChris

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    Bingo. This is a great bit of feedback and a nice, polite summary of why people are having trouble with Sniper Cannon.

    And as a Sniper user myself, I agree that it's missing the close-range drawback. Nerfing crits at close range similar to Railgun damage falloff makes a lot of sense to me, as I've had matches where literally every shot but one has been a crit for 1K+.

    I'll bring this up with the dev team.
     
  8. Zusay

    Zusay Well-Known Member

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    happy to also hear comments from sniper users! and btw grats on the MVP, great choice by rovio!!!
     
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  9. Shadow Moon!

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    Or there can just be a arming range like torpedoes to bring crit chance in play and no critical hit at point blank range which is how snipers should work.
    Blast it uselss beyond some range so should be sniper at point blank range.
     
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  10. Zusay

    Zusay Well-Known Member

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    actually i prefer the idea with the railgun damage, don´t think that cannons should have a minimum arming range :)
     
  11. Dvd2812

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    Angree. Most people using sniper, so it is overused. It is really unfair that we have to fight against the majority.
     
  12. Shadow Moon!

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    Arming range for crit chance but not damage. Say 20 and beyond you can get crit hit less than that no critical hit just normal damage.
     
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  13. CaffeinatedChris

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    I'll just add that in my crit-filled game, all but one of those crits had a LOT of travel time on them; a close-range % nerf wouldn't have changed things much. But from what I'm hearing, people have less of an issue with the long-range impact and more of a problem with those crits still raining down once the distance is closed.
     
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  14. Joey who

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    Another blast cannon user who wants his blast cannon stronger than sniper. Lol
     
  15. ViscountSniffit

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    Here are two examples of me being hit by snipers mid Nitro. I didn’t even have to search for these, they’re just readily available in the handful of games I’ve recorded.

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    This just proves how the whole ‘keep moving’ argument is flawed, when even 300% speed isn’t fast enough. Yet I’m expected to play with a huge hp reduction compared to shooters, for a measly .3 speed. Which is absolutely no defence at all against the most popular gun in the game... which also has a huge chance to crit for 1000+ damage.
     
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  16. Joey who

    Joey who Well-Known Member

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    You act as if you're going to be that far away all game. You're going to run up close eventually or am I wrong?
     
  17. ViscountSniffit

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    It ‘should’ be stronger. It has less range, less speed/accuracy. There should be adequate compensation for that in terms of power, that’s balance.

    But the crit chance more than makes up for it. At Level 40 rare, two sniper shots (1 crit) is about 1500 damage. That’s significantly more than my L40 BC can do in two shots, with half the range, and a much slower projectile speed.
     
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  18. ViscountSniffit

    ViscountSniffit Well-Known Member

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    I don’t understand what you’re trying to say here? In both shots I am just trying to get away as fast possible. But there is no escape.
     
  19. Zusay

    Zusay Well-Known Member

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    please keep your comments on the topic, I value your comments but this thread is definitely not about my blast cannon, I am not asking to make it stronger. Sniper is overpowered and that´s a fact. And for sure i don´t see a reason why a sniper should be easier to hit, have longer range and deal higher damage even on non burning targets (50% of the time) than a blast cannon combined with burn damage.
     
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  20. Joey who

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    That is a false statement. Please review the hundreds of threads on this exact topic. Thanks
     
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