Nerf Sniper? Why not Blast Cannon?

Have you ever tried to compete to higher league where speeder is basically almost impossible to hit with bc on mid-long range? I guess not, Well see for yourself.

 

Leave blast canon aside, frost torp is currently pain in the ***. Especially for defenders who can't dodge big torpedo without being frosted. This thing needs a severe nerf

 

What needs a nerf is mortar spam

 

Personally I just hate people who spam mortars and torpedoes. Ridiculous

 

Yeah no skill required and yet they still easily win

 

Mortars is the least of a concern if you have a good turbo.There are several places where you can hide from them in all arenas.but hey let's give leave it, we are all going off topic. MY bad i started it

 

no for a reason : snipe is no brain...
snipe : 43 range, 44speed
blast : 24 range, 19.8 speed.... you want to nerf it...
the only good point of blast is his monstruous critic (but how much % can you have??? got a T4 epic blast... if i reach 10% it's a really big big number, if it's happen 1 time in a fight i'm fucking happy.)
the other good point... it train for aiming (now i hit mk5 speeder even with wave, not everytime, but often, most of shootersnipe are not able, they become lazy with snipe)
you speak about enforcer and speeder with blast... yes... because most of them learn to aim...like fixer or defender (yes we got less weapon than shooter, so we don't use it stupidly)
you are a shooter certainly?

snipe is easy to aim, easy to camp out of range of other weapon (even out of mortar range)....a noobish weapon (sarcastic here, but what... boring of shooter snipe camper)

 

I've never gotten hit with a Blast Cannon from an enemy that was in my line of sight but outside of my sight range. That's why.

 

I am really, really good at using leadshot with mortars. Are you sure it requires no skill to win with mortar? What about the skill to evade mortars? Yes, you do need some (basic) skill to be able to dodge mortars.

 

Blast has much better projectiles trajectory. They also shoot you with blast, but because of waves you can't shoot with sniper.
In general, it is difficult to say which is better. But it's more comfortable playing with blast.

Fire bomb strongly in conflict with shields in Brock's improvements. An additional nerf will kill desire to even use it.

 

I'd have to say that the Blast Cannon gets increased at the top end of the spectrum. It's actually better than an explosive cannon at the later stages in terms of damage and range/speed. If you think using a Blast Cannon is difficult, try an Explosive cannon.
Blast cannon can deal massive damage when it's Epic T5 or Legendary T3, over 2000 damage unassisted by fire and double that with crit. For a 1 Slot weapon, I think it's a bit high. In comparison, the Explosive Cannon does 1500 damage, 2000 with fire, double on Crit.

If anything, the Explosive either needs to be bumped up worthy to be compared to Blast, or the Blast CAnnon needs to be scaled down at the Captain levels 15+ (reduction in skills on increased damage).

 

i must agree...
1=> aiming with ec, or flaregun is more difficult than blast

2=> the damage : just put my epic blast to T4, now it's 35 damage per lvl increase (actually 753 at lvl 31 so 900 damage at lvl 40?)... quite high, but must be a really lucky guy for getting this
after explosive canon and railgun are for me "end game" weapon.

 

Explosive cannon needs a faster projectile speed. It feels like a torpedo in the air.



Wait a sec, it literally is a torpedo in the air! It has less damage, but it does have non-visible splash damage, and a slow projectile.

 

All that the skilless shooters do is put a ton of mortars on their ship and fire away you can definitely evade one or two or three but when its 10 being fired everywhere with mines on the field and napalms everywhere too what do u do
It requires no skill thats it u do the same amount of dmg as the cannons but u have a splash radius ... totally not op

 

I wonder why you think this (maybe because you use sniper and explosive haha) but anyway I actually agree somewhat, and I think they should add 1 more explosive cannon captain talent somewhere early on, maybe like 10% damage

 

Actually, I'm building an Epic Blast Cannon behind the scenes, and a Epic mine, along with a Flare Gun. So yes, it's biased, but I not particularly attached to either of my current weapons. They have their flaws. I get trumped by the Flare / Blast Cannon combo simply because of the damage and burn perks it receives.

My comparison was strategic, because the Explosive cannon is as close as the Blast Cannon in almost everyway, except it does a small radius of splash damage, and it's slower, increased cooldown, weaker, yet it's a 2 slot weapon.

 

2k without crits? Seems high to me. Base damage for epic blast t5 is at or very close to 639. Now ALL (every captain, so including all point damage+every weapon increase) talents would give you a +107% damage boost (86% from just Bhurt) and then add in the boost of 4 epic perks=+36% damage. All this comes out to 1552, which is not quite 2k. Also, a few of the % damage talents outside of Bhurt might not be chosen due to preference of another talent. Anyway, I figured 2k was a little exaggerated

 

Yeah, go figure. I get hit by Thunder Sword, Master Baiter, Widow Maker a few other Blast Cannon users and it's like 2K easy, and no fire involved.

Before @ArctiC (one of my most missed fleet buddies) scrapped his items, he had an T5 Epic and he said it was doing 1800 damage without max Bhurt. That's really got me focusing on either one of 2 combos; Flare Gun + Blast Cannon or Frost Cannon + Big Torpedo. Which I'm juggling in my inventory to see what I get first to T4.

 

Ik it seems like that sometimes to me. Either the numbers lie or we just missing something. Until I see a top blast cannon player's gameplay idk what to believe lol

 

As I said, it requires a beginners level of skill to evade mortars. I have seen lots of players complain about it. I have played over 6k battles now, I have seen how alot of those people play who complain about mortars... And they all have some things in common...

They either camp, or they rush in on their own. Or they don't have a turbo equipped. Are you sure you never make one of those 3 mistakes?

Just curious, what's your infamy, your captain level, and your setup?