Nerf Shooter Thread!

Yeah. I'm not holding my breath for it

But, otherwise...

I don't have any underleveled ships (other than a Mk5 fixer) so I can't say for sure .. but it looked like the players I always see gearing up their Mk3s for events weren't doing that this event.

So either that particular loophole has been closed or there was no advantage for doing so this event.

 

Talking about "seal clubbing".
Simple idea.
Devs! Don't let Captain lvl 10 and Captain lvl 46 to fight in the same battle.

As simple as that.
Just create some virtual "groups" for battles. Maybe each 10 captain levels. Like "10-20", "21-30", etc... I don't know. But it's much more easy than trying to set some limits depending on ship & weapon tiers.

 

As soon as someone hits level 21, 31, or 41 and sees a huge jump in competition .. then comes here complaining about it and threatening to quit, we'll know whom to thank for their simple idea.

 

As I mentioned before, I don't know how to do it exactly.
Maybe just something like... Not allow more than 20/25/30 difference between captain levels in one battle.

 

Infamy is flawed if we are seeing Captain L10 vs Captain L20+ in the same matches... but patching up matchmaking by incorporating Captain Level is just covering the root of the problem with duct tape and pretending a real fix is in place. We're already seeing that in EventMatchmaker(tm) with Power Score added to Gear Score .. but I don't think that's the right solution.

 

Looks like Numbers are trying to tell us something...

 

That events that reward mass amounts of damage favor ships with more weapons .. interesting .. who woulda thunk

 

So will it be ok after event???
Like i dont know whats going on.

 

So shooter is best for events and quests and everything else. Sounds OP

 

You disappointed me this update. Your target of 100% shooter is not reached. Solution: Buff all spam weapons and double shooter's red slots while nerfing the others. What could go wrong?

While your at it, why don't you increase new ships price by 50,000 ship pieces and make each piece seperate for each boat?

 

I agree with most everything in that post.

The thing I'll add is that I love playing the game .. and I want it to be balanced. I don't have some hidden agenda to make my life easier. I want to be able to play every ship and have the same chance of winning.


I've played a fair amount of defender (pre-DB) and switch back and forth between shooter and speeder now .. and I'm working on my enfo build .. so I generally have an idea of what I'm talking about. It seems like many opinions come from people that haven't actually tried other ships.


Anywho .. I don't like that the game is more like rock, paper, scissors now .. With skilled and equal teams, the match outcome is almost predetermined as soon as the teams are matched.

Certain ships are hard counters to other ships and it takes a huge amount of skill difference or a large mistake to overcome those odds. Certain items are extremely strong against certain ships and utterly worthless against others.

I would prefer every ship to have a equal chance against every other ship. I want items to have a balance between being super-effective and not effective at all - depending on the target.


Obviously, I have some very detailed thoughts on how exactly that would work .. but I'll save that for another time.

 

I was hoping Interceptor would add some diversity to the game, having the second most weapons amongst all ships, but Rovio decided against mass adoption of it. We all know how under-represented Fixers are relative to their team value, and again Rovio decided The Reaper is also not for mass adoption. So much untapped potential in this game that I fear may never be seen.

 

To be honest, I’ve been feeling the balance between ships has been much better since .4 (not sure about Defender), and I’m talking pre ‘balancing’ here.

I’m happy to see Shooters finally lose their defence points. I never understood why they had that, and it was really annoying when you went ‘all in’ to finish a low health Shooter that you though you could kill, only to have him survive with 12 hp, and 10 seconds of free shots at you.

I still think Shooter needs a ‘slight’ hp nerf. They are really fast and agile now. Talk about unregistered hits on Speeder, I get plenty of unregistered hits on Shooters now, with them wiggling about. That kind of speed and agility should come at a price, as it does for Speeders, I think the gap in hp ought to be reduced. Hopefully that would also encourage more Defender use for people who want a more tanky build.

 

Because weapons offer huge damage now, and increasing every iteration, HP nerfs are not recommended. If you are thinking other boats need more HP that's an entirely different argument.

For me there's no incentive to jump from Shooter to Defender... it would cost me 2 weapons for the HP, but I like buttons to press. Interceptor is the in-between ship that would make it possible for both Shooters and Defenders to transition easier... but being positioned as unobtainable by anyone but whales, that's just a balancing opportunity lost.