Item scrolling suggestion

My biggest pet peeve with this game is the item scrolling. If you have more than one page of items, the way to scrolling is to put your finger in the list and move it up or down, at which point you have 50/50 shot of grabbing an item vs scrolling, so if you actually want to scroll but you have an item you have to put the item back and keep trying until it grabs.

I noticed that I started using sideways movements to move items, which is a 100% guarantee, at which point I realized that up/down movements should be a 100% guarantee to scroll, that way both item movement and scrolling work 100% on a single gesture rather than a roll of the dice. I'd highly recommend to do this... a better option than adding a scrollbar

 

Crickets? I can't be the only one where this is an issue EVERY time I try to scroll my items.

 

As a quick followup, I noticed it is possible to scroll with two fingers... In that case I would recommend that single finger movement is always item movement, but never scrolling. If everyone still wants single finger scrolling, I would reiterate that up/down with a single finger should never result in item movement. The whole thing as it works now is just not deterministic enough for a good UI experience.

 

Good thread. I have this issue too. Use the horizontal movement trick for moving items perfectly too. Didn't know about the double finger scroll, cheers for the info!

 

While the two finger scroll has better odds, I've unfortunately found that it requires two fingers down EXACTLY simultaneous with each other... if not you have a very good chance of picking up two items at once! It's so awkward.

 

Ahhh nice to know. I'll just have to work more on having a perfectly straight scroll then.
When you say vertical draw vs horizontal, I assume you are already calculating that based on anything within 45 degrees of a vertical plane is counted as vertical, and anything withing 45* of the horizontal plane is counted as horizontal?
If not, is it possible to have it coded that way to give a little more leeway for scrolling?

 

Mmmmk fair enough. I'm a game dev myself (less successful) so I get what you mean. I guess it doesn't help that I have huge hands / fat fingers that are slightly sweaty most of the time (eww)

 

Using a Samsung Galaxy S7, so fairly large-ish screen for a phone (but from what I gather a lot of people play on tablets)

 

To reiterate, the scrolling issue is the same for me whether on tablet (Galaxy Tab S) or phone (LG V20 and V30).. all relatively big screens.

I'm also not quite convinced this problem can't be solved by a few tweaks. If it's a problem of initial drag, you can introduce more of a lag until the certainty of direction is more certain. I can verify that items seem to pull out of their slots at almost any angle except for about 60 degrees around top and bottom where it becomes about 75% chance of scroll. Maybe widen those vertical cones of uncertainty to favor scrolling over item pulling along the vertical axis? The thing is, you get 100% accuracy pulling an item out sideways, if it was a true issue of "I don't know which direction" I would expect to see scrolling when pulling out sideways as well, but that's just not the case, which tells me your algorithm favors item pulling... and what I'm saying is I'd rather have it favor scrolling.

Another option is to implement multi-touch for scrolling. Anything is better than what happens now, which results in regular item swapping when trying to scroll, and tedious fixing to re-group them.

Third option, have the inventory auto-organize as a preference. All I really want is items always grouped by type... not sure there's a lot of value in organizing things manually.

Forth option add a scroll bar. I actually could care less about this option, but it and the other 3 are better than what is there now, and ultimately all for can work simultaneously. Considering many players leave blank space in their inventory so that they can scroll, that tells me this is a significant issue for a lot of players. To be clear, it is personally my biggest issue with the game.