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Is this fixer Extremely lucky?

Discussion in 'Game Discussion' started by NoTtIaN, 20 Aug 2018.

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  1. SeaNavy

    SeaNavy Well-Known Member

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    I think he's a nightmare league defender.
     
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  2. xArrogance

    xArrogance Well-Known Member

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    Yes. But I don't think that shows up in damage calculations. Just splash damage
     
  3. TheAntiSnipe

    TheAntiSnipe Moon's haunted

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    I think he identifies as an Apache helicopter, but I could be wrong. Don't assume genders:p lmao jk
     
  4. xArrogance

    xArrogance Well-Known Member

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    If gender is fluid, the pronoun shouldn't matter
     
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  5. Joey who

    Joey who Well-Known Member

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    I have every training set to bc and none for ex cannon, still does almost the same damage. Plus the trainings for ex cannon goes better for flare ex cannon, than it does for flare bc
    There is no competition here lol. Plus ex cannon can hit multiple players at a time which I see often
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  6. What's Up Player

    What's Up Player Well-Known Member

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    Of course EC is better, just look at the NML stats. Only ship that prefers BC over EC is Enforcer, because of its slot limitations :(
     
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  7. NoTtIaN

    NoTtIaN Well-Known Member

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    we need captain obvious to explain this in detail!!

    wait, so meaning if you upgraded a blast to 1000 dmg, the xcannon would do 1333?
    but: trains can conflict (blast or xcannon - at a certain level)
     
  8. NoTtIaN

    NoTtIaN Well-Known Member

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    you know what?
    give more firepower to enforcers.
     
  9. xArrogance

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    I see BCs more often on speeders nowadays.
    Shooters would use it at a higher rate if it didn't kill the sniper - especially since an EC won't break a max epic T shield anymore.
    Enfos prefer it.
    I rarely see defenders - so idk, but they should be using BC for the shorter cooldown.
    Idk what fixers use. I don't let them live long enough to find out.

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  10. NoTtIaN

    NoTtIaN Well-Known Member

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    this is offtopic,
    the main idea was:
    was i / the fixer lucky? or not..
    i knwo this is a 'lively' discussion, until "someone" decides to close it..
    just.. dont
    I SIAD DONT!
    NO WAIT!!


    PLEASE!!
    lik n leave thanks!
     
  11. xArrogance

    xArrogance Well-Known Member

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    My numbers are right ..

    Blast Cannon does more damage per second (damage/cooldown time)
     
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  12. xArrogance

    xArrogance Well-Known Member

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    First off, you mentioned it in the OP.

    Second, I could make one of my overly-detailed threads about how flares and blast cannons are overpowered in relation to other items in the game:

    [How a flare ignoring defense makes them overpowered - since it already does more total damage and dps than all other weapons (sans carronade) while also reducing healing and making victims susceptible to up to 73% more damage from cannon-types .. and how the blast cannon should be made a 2-slot item since it has a higher dps than an ecannon or the ecannon made a 1 slot-item - while also changing the BC/Sniper conflicts to BC/EC conflicts].

    But, I don't think you want those advantages highlighted ...
     
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  13. Joey who

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    When both are fully maxed and have ALL trainings set ec does 1853 dmg, 129dps(considering you never hit 2 enemies with 1 shot) and bc has 1643, 148 dps. BC has 19 more dps (again considering you never hit more than 1 player with ec). Your statement is as valid as arguing that big torp should be made 1 slot because the cooldown of a swift torp is lower.


    Edit - these stats are epics as I don't expect the average player to have a max leg
     
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  14. ScrapKing

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    Wait your blast already do thousands of damage?
     
  15. ShipCrusherCz

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    Does it really matter?
    I would
    I had rare lvl 28 blast and I stil have rare lvl 28 ex canno, the difference in their damage was few hundreds, that's because ex cannon is weaker than blast untill you get the crew training bonuses for it;)
     
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    yesterday i saved a shooter with 1 hp.and i died and this shooter had full hp
     
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    Don't bother. He makes a new nerf thread per day for every item that destroys his enforcer and with some bonus rant if the enemy was a shooter :p
     
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    Have had several crits now with over 2800 damage from my blast cannon.
     
  19. xArrogance

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    Brah, I'm tried tellin' ya .. you really didn't want me showing everyone how overpowered the BC is compared to the EC ... I tried to warn you..



    For one, the EC splash damage has already been nerfed at least once that I can recall ... and you'd have to hit a 2nd ship for 261 damage every single time you fired your EC to have the same DPS as the BC.


    For two, I wouldn't have made the ST/BT comparison.. but since you did, let's look at the relationship between other 1/2 slot items in the game:

    2-slot Big Torp: 3504/13.3 = 264 dps
    1-slot Swift Torp: 1562/9 = 174 dps
    (2-slot BT's DPS is 34% higher than the 1-slot ST's DPS)

    2-slot Explosive Cannon: 1870/14.4 = 129 dps
    1-slot Blast Cannon: 1643/11.1 = 148 dps
    (2-slot EC's DPS is 12.8% lower than the 2-slot BC's DPS)


    So, let's see how that would look if the 1-slot ST had a 12.8% higher DPS than the BT.

    Either the swift torp would do 2680 damage or 297 DPS (to the BT's 3504 DMG/264 DPS) or the big torp would do 2051 damage or 154 DPS (to the ST's 1562 DMG/174 DPS).

    Or .. let's say the EC DPS was 34% higher than the BC (like the BT/ST comparison you made) ..

    Either the blast cannon would hit for around 1068.6 DMG or 96 DPS (to the EC 1870/129), or the EC would hit for 2855 DMG or 198 DPS (to the BC 1643/148).


    Are you sure you want to make the swift torp/big torp comparison?

    1) All max epic numbers
    2) Swift torp numbers may be slightly off
    3) I realize the torp speed difference is a big factor here - which is why I wouldn't have made the comparison - but chadbro brought it up
     
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  20. Joey who

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    Nerfed for a reason. I still see ex cannons shots splashing multiple players daily. Still see players miss their ex cannon shot but hit the wall next to them for full damage. And comparing dps you could argue that the standard cannon is op. Damage per hit can favor in most situtions more than dps can. Nothing you said convinces me that bc is better than ex cannon, and seeing that the only ship using it is the enforcer meanwhile ec is used by shooters defenders and speeders says enough. I'm more than sure if enforcers could use flare double ex cannon they would.
     
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