Infamy stability suggestion

https://battlebayitems.com/items.html has the item level comparison charts.

 

I was joking (mostly).

To answer you more seriously, you can’t just assume that the other boats around you are lower than you expect because they lack skill. You’d need to control for other factors.

They might be questing hard, they might be working on multiple boats (dividing their training and resources), they might be young children, or people with a poor internet connection, or they might just be tanking to get easier games.

In fact, it’s a constant source of bemusement here, exactly how mk5s and mk6s end up at 400 infamy. I’ve played custom games, where it’s just me on my own, against 5 little boats (all <1k infamy), and it was still really unfair. I was able to kill everyone (including defenders) in 1-2 hits, while they could barely scratch me with thier weapons.

I also played a custom game against some mk5s that were below <500 and they were still quite dangerous. I have no idea how to reconcile those two experiences. But it would seem to take more than a lack of skill to drop that far in a mk5.

Regarding Black Tail: I don’t know, he left the game before I started playing. He played in a very different time, I’m not sure how he’d do nowadays. I’ve watched some of his games, and his weapons certainly weren’t underpowered.

If you (or black tail) we’re tearing up Nightmare in a mk3 with uncommon weapons. Then I’d say “yeah, skill is what matters” but that will never happen.

All you’ve managed is to get a little bit higher than expected (I’ll take your word for it), but get a little bit higher again, and you’ll soon realise that no amount of skill is going to make up for the disparity in equipment, it just becomes hopeless until you level up.

I agree with you about rewards though. When everyone else in your games is a mk higher than you, with better weapons, your rewards should allow you to catch up in a reasonable timeframe.

 

I'm going to guess it's the difference in our infamy levels.

My day-to-day game play suggests skill does matter. When that became most blatantly obvious to me was after the first time I had bubbled up to 1200 infamy. When I dropped back down again it was like night and day. Battles that had seemed hard before ended up being, "You gotta be kidding! My enemy is going to do that? Well ok then..." (LOL, the same stupid stuff that I used to do so I recognized the behavior well).

At higher infamies, I have no idea but I assume that gaps in skill would be much smaller among the top tier just like it normally is among Olympic athletes. So then yes, any significant gear difference would probably be amplified. Then again, gear gaps you face are also much smaller than those I face. That may partially compensate.

Regarding Blacktail the last I had heard he basically came back and crushed nightmare league handily. But that's not really fair. There's always someone like that somewhere and they shouldn't be used to generalize.

 

The problem with Ace League, is that it’s where a lot of the “pay to win” people start to top out. So it can still be quite a mixed bag.

You might be against someone who’s a veteran of thousands of games, or some guy who spent thousands of $$$ but can’t lead shots. I get people with legendary weapons in almost every game now, and the more they have, the more useless they tend to be as teammates. I solo killed a mk6 Shooter today, that went off on his own to capture (He had so many hp, I got top damage on my team just for killing him lol).

Regarding Black Tail: I heard he was back, I checked the top 50, however, and he’s not in it...

 

He's just adjusting to the game again. Once he get's his mechanics done he'll destroy face like the old days.

 

I'm confused too. Other people were reporting him at 5k infamy but I never saw him there.

 

Bumping this after a wild infamy ride. Does anyone actually like their infamy adjusted so severely each match?

 

For me I've found infamy is something best not cared about or else treated like any other resource that I need to manage. "Optimal game experience means I need to keep my infamy between xxx and yyy." It's no different than gold, sugar, or pearls to me.

To be fair, now that I've crossed into the 1400's the whole matchmaking & infamy system seems somewhat less insane so treating this game as a competitive shooter is looking more feasible. Still though, what would make this game an awful lot more fun to me is if I could just lock my infamy at some number so then I could forget about it and "just play".

 

And that's all I'm looking for.. just get that number stabilized. Some day I'll put together a historical chart of my infamy change under the current system and my proposed plan plan... but it's going to be difficult with that UI.