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Discussion in 'Game Discussion' started by ThatOnion, 19 Sep 2017.

  1. CheekyDevilGod

    CheekyDevilGod Well-Known Member

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    Miika, people aren't really frustrated with the lack of rares and epics.

    People are frustrated cause they can't pick their rares and epics.

    It's always random and 99% of the time you get some poop that you don't like and don't want to play with.

    How about you guys make it possible to atleast buy rare duplicates but at a higher price for each tier?
     
  2. JustPlainSowad

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    89 days since I started playing.

    So - 12.71 week.
    103 rare - some were bought from shop using gold
    10 epic

    That would give me.... 8.1 rare and 0.786 epics per week.
     
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  3. DaveRay35

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    Im sorry but i just dont agree. What youre looking for is a fast track system.

    Sure itd be superficially nice if we could pick and choose what we get and when we get it. But the current system of randomness keeps this game interesting as we sift through the stuff we dont want ( ive been storing lev21 rare missiles and trip torps with 3 spares for what seems like ages ) and can scrap and recycle those items to invest in developing items we do want.

    its easy to say "give me stuff and ill be happy". Its harder to see that achieving through patience and persistence can be more satisfying.
     
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  4. EyeOfDoom

    EyeOfDoom Well-Known Member

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    I don't know why everyone keeps forgetting that general idea of this game is to make the most of what you get. Everyone has that one rare that they keep getting over and over. If you had switched to that rare you wouldn't be here whining about lack of dupes. I'm using double railguns on a defender because that's the one I got the most copies of. Inconvenient it may be but at least i don't have to worry about dupes. I can go on forever about lack of snipers and explosive cannons for my defender but i don't because I don't have to play like other 99% of defenders.
     
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  5. Miathan

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    I calculated my numbers:

    Played for 124 days --> 17.7 weeks
    Rares obtained: 188
    Epics obtained: 31

    This results in:

    10.6 rares/week
    1.75 epic/week

    That's with quite active play ( 3634 battles, or 29 per day), and none of those 3900 pearl crates purchased, so the epics obtained could be higher if I had bothered to save up pearls and not buy the 400 box every time.

    It may be that my numbers are low because of my fixer play though. Regardless of what miika says about average stars for fixers, I'm definitely getting below average. My battle log is frequently full of 0 for losses and 1 for wins, with a very rare 2 star for win (but never more than 0 for loss). If I got more stars, and could purchase more than 1 star crate per day, I might also get more rares and epics.
     
  6. TheAntiSnipe

    TheAntiSnipe Moon's haunted

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    Fixer healing goes by wierd maths. I don't know what, but despite the absolutely cracker gameplay with fixer, this maths made me quit fixer in like 13-14 matches total
     
  7. The Otherguy

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    4 out of the last 4 rare items I got... were mortars!!!
     
  8. CheekyDevilGod

    CheekyDevilGod Well-Known Member

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    If I wanted life lessons on how to live my life and be successful, I'll go visit a counsellor of some sorts so no thanks.

    I'm here to get away from reality and have some fun, Not get stuck in more of that bull, There's a limit to giving what we want and what we need and currently the devs are way over the line establishing in deciding what we need and not giving a single fudge about the stuff we want.

    I'm not here to bend my will to how I should play my game, I'm here to play it the way I wanna play it and I don't give a fudge what and how the game, the devs, the rng system thinks I "should" play the game.

    Nobody has the right to decide that for me, not you and certainly not the devs so excuse me for saying this.

    You goddamn devs who are trying oh so much to ignire everything I'm saying, for the sake of your game and ours, atleast try to meet us halfway through and for gods sake give us atleast one of the things that we WANT. Stop trying to play our parents and deciding what's good for us and what's not.

    If you guys wanted to make a game that only you would approve of then why the fudge do you make it public?. Just keep it to yourself and keep shooting each other till you lot are bored instead of shoving this frustrating poop up our nose.
     
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  10. DaveRay35

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    Wow. Yep I think you're taking this too seriously and I'm sorry if my analysis and opinion had such an impact on you. One opinion doesn't cancel another and we're all entitled to them. I think it's clear you're looking for a fast track and don't think I judged you for that. I also think you probably need to understand that you can request but not demand people do things?

    I'm not a developer by the way. I'm just a guy who's played strategy games for 30 odd years (you're probably not far off my kids' age tbh) and have been playing online games like CoC and a few others for 5 or so years.

    Just to sum up where I stand - I'm happy with random items, it makes the game more interesting for me. I think its very unlikely this change would be even considered for implementation.
     
  11. EyeOfDoom

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    Please bring your lawnmower. We have a lot of firebombs in the air.
     
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  12. CheekyDevilGod

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    That's the thing. I DON'T Want it "FAST". I'm actually willing to wait longer to get the stuff I want.

    I just want to have a say in the stuff that I get. If I'm spending 3.9k pearls for 10 rares then I want to decide which ones I want. I don't want 10 random items that I hate or suck at using.

    We worked hard for those pearls, we have to play 50 games a day for 3 months to get those pearls and I think WE SHOULD have a say in what we get. We all deserve that much at the very least.

    I'm sure we all want to keep playing this game for a minimum of 5 years to 30 years too. I'm not against that and since the devs are oh so slow at giving out updates, we have to keep what little stuff they have given us to keep ourselves occupied.

    I DON'T WANT TO BUILD ITEMS FASTER. I DON'T WANT MORE ITEMS. I'M WILLING TO BUILD ITEMS AND TAKE A GUT SHOT TO ITEM DROPS IF I CAN HAVE A MAJOR SAY IN WHAT I GET INSTEAD OF SOME RANDOM NUMBER GENERATION ALGORITHM.

    I'm using all caps to show emphasise on what I mean. The second part of what I said wasn't in response to you, it's to the devs. I'm not against your opinion. I'm against other people's opinions being forced on other people amd in this context I'm frustrated about the devs and the rng system shoving their opinions down my throat.

    They're entitled to theirs but so am I and if they aren't going to implement something to satisfy the community then at the very least I'm allowed to rant.
     
  13. BasedCarpen

    BasedCarpen Well-Known Member

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    Get good.
     
  14. ThatOnion

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    Thanks for the amazing reply that add to the conversation!
     
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  15. D3X

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    This probability is likely worst. It would be true if the item you got cuts off once you get 6 of the same and the probability of getting the same item again is much lower. This isn’t the case. Every crate and combined pieces is a reroll so the odds are the same. 72 items might be the average, but it maybe worst for some players by getting 10-20 items duplicate of something they don’t want like ballpark mortar. Your calculation only considers one random Epic T5 if all items came from the same chance, but that’s not actually true because the pieces are silo’d into colors; red, yellow, green, blue and items of green and blue are much harder to get to T5 since the pieces drop infrequently.
     
  16. BasedCarpen

    BasedCarpen Well-Known Member

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    I've been playing for less than three months and I already got 3 epic grenades, I've been pretty lucky with the RNG. The matchmaking not so much.
     
  17. CheekyDevilGod

    CheekyDevilGod Well-Known Member

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    Are you even reading the conversation?

    Nobody's complaining about the matchmaking or shooting skills now. Please kindly read before throwing your opinion regarding something out there.
     
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  18. Wishaal

    Wishaal Well-Known Member

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    I think you need to take a chill pill
     
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  19. BasedCarpen

    BasedCarpen Well-Known Member

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    I mean I'm responding to the OP. Isn't that what you're supposed to be doing in a thread
     
  20. CheekyDevilGod

    CheekyDevilGod Well-Known Member

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    They have a reply button for that you know?. It's used to respond to messages some 3 messages-pages before, it's right below the posts, next to the like button.
     

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