How to make the Battle Bay Great

Let them eat cake eh?
Can't I'm afraid, this absurdly misguided opinion has taken it!

Keep in mind that there are many of us in the global top 200, f2p, with a half rare loadout and the rest half built epics, still a long way from mk7 ships.
We play every match vastly outgeared as it is, against fully maxed ships, crew and equipment. Imbalance for sale.

What we need in this game is more fun, more variety and more balance, not less.

 

They made it easier now for you guys to lvl with only battling also reaching nightmare would give god rewards. I saw a fixer and shooter mk4 in nightmare where you get 30, epic and leg parts / 4 epic pieces and 1 leg piece. You can lvl faster but it’s about skill I can name a lot of players mk5 in nightmare. It’s time to make the top people aim for something new.

 

That’s mean you don’t play much. I know people who play and lvl without paying . How many battle you had in 2 years ?

 

Which part lol send me on massages so I can add it

 

Read my post.
We do need more fun, more variety and more balance. Nerfing one area but not others create an imbalance. That holds true in game but in life as well. The game is imbalance. Simple.

You can’t tell everyone that pays to advance to wait for others to catch up. They got / are getting bored and what would be the point of paying if they can’t advance quickly ?

Adding new game modes (story mode, training ground, death match, etc...) would give a new interaction to the game but the end game would still lack something new to do.

Tons of top players left and others are playing other games. Why ? Game is boring at end game. That’s all there is to it.

With PUBG/Fortnite coming into mobile users, their massive advertisements and the fun of it, why would any top Battle Bay players continue to play a game where you can’t upgrade your items, your boats, let alone not getting anything new beside having a shiny blue color for the defender and a new wallpaper ?
(the design team did a great job there. Props to your team, Don).

Those are complaints from actual players.

Rovio can’t cater to every players in this game but giving a new height to reach is for everyone to give something to look for.

 

If you really can't see that making players who are already far more powerful than their competitors even more powerful would create a tragic imbalance, then I'm sure I'm not going to waste any more time here.

Complaints from actual players you say?
No lad, those are complaints from people who think they should never lose because they have a bit of scratch to spare.
It'd be just a matter of weeks before they all buy their way to the end again anyway, and then what? Mk10?

I'd venture that actual players would enjoy a sense of fair competition, where's the fun or honour in walking all over a weaker opponent?
Jaws has his olympian spirit to consider

I'll tell you something for sure, more players would leave if they introduced this ridiculous proposal than if they didn't.
I won't be half surprised if they do though, you lot have had your way at every turn so far..

 

There's not been a single day without my crew training since beta.
I play plenty, far too much probably.

 

I liked pretty much all the OP's suggestions.

 

good ideas except for the mortar dmg buff...that would completely kill defender, now it's hell for defender to meet 2 mortar spammers in enemy team, because he is too slow, and what do you thing will dmg buff for mortars do with these situations? it will be even worse

imagine this situation:
you are playing with defender and you enter open area to engage enemy and suddenly mortar shells rain starts, you can try to hide somewhere but you are too slow to evade these shots so you get enormous amount of dmg from direct or almost direct mortar hits (dmg depends on mk of your ship, infamy etc.), this often ends with you losing half of your hp and when your team doesn't have fixer you are going to die during next mortar spam, do you thing buff is needed? maybe mortars are ineffective against enforcers and speeders (you can easily directly hit shooter or fixer with low skill), but the probably least used ship (defender) will get nerfed even more (ex cannon nerf and now you are suggesting buff for one of the biggest enemies of this ship)
and now defenders buff:
interesting ideas but...it won't be fair to shrink defender by 15% because you have to pay for your advantages, when you have higher hp and defense points than anyone else you must be also the worst in some category (speed and size), I thing that it would be better to fix defender's hit box, torpedo running close enough to side or back of defender (not touching it, but being close enough) causes explosion of the torpedo and I thing that this is the main problem of defender's size, you can dodge like 70% of torpedoes fired from long distance and approximately 40% of torpedoes fired from mid distance (% decreases with bigger skill of attacker, you need good turbo and torpedo must be slow = no swift torpedoes), but if you aren't fast enough they explode although they don't touch you

 

Most of the OP's suggestions are good, and have been mentioned before. Even if all that was addressed, I'm not even sure it fixes the core issue with BB: the progression system is broken.

• Upgrading to stronger boats frequently results in an infamy drop. Reverse-progression at its finest.
• Obtaining parts for upgrades is exceedingly time consuming, assuming you can get duplicates of items at all. Going on 1 year I have yet to receive enough epics of my favorite weapons to be stronger than a Rare... so my progression has flat-lined for months at this point, and will be for another 2 months, I estimate as I work on training and pray to RNGeezus for epics.
• Legendary items are a fool's game *and* they subvert the training tree (i.e., the main progression system). Players clamor for them, frequently not getting the one they want, forgetting they would have been better off building a Rare version of that item all along, a easy way to get near-Legendary strength. Then other players get lucky, or pay money and get items that it takes months of hard work to build.

PUBG and Fortnite are killing BB in terms of popularity and revenue are important side-notes. Players there can compete on skill rather than a lottery-based years-long semi-broken progression system. Skill based games have their own issues though, so balancing that with a solid progression system is, I think, the perfect sweet spot. BB can do it, but it won't be without significant changes.

 

Quality post by F.QTR.
I agree with mostly everything he stated.
New content is lacking severely, the game is just becoming a massive endless grind for gear and parts. We need events, challenges, tournaments, etc. Some new & interactive stuff I guess and we need it on a regularly basis. I understand the difficulties of production in mobile games but this really is kind of slow.

 

I actually wrote that the defender needs size reduction and speed so mortars can’t be easy or torpo. So buffing mortara won’t kill the game.

 

Thanks.

Yes we need something new and weekly or monthly tournaments chanllenges would be great.

 

I am not playing that much because of fortnite i started 2 weeks ago and I love it. But I still love B.B. and I hope they will find a way to make it interesting again.

 

For those who are saying progression became faster because of XP earned from battles are quite misguided.
Earning XP from battles isn't much of a progression except for getting mk7 faster which imo isn't much of a progression because your talents from training are still not there.
Those talents are what makes a boat and items good without talents a item.
Talents contribute to half the items true value.
If you really want progression then ask devs to allow f2p to use that XP to equip those talents.
Second every game has a end game to bring some balance into the game what makes a game interesting is fighting new and skilled players getting new maps new items new game modes and battle bay needs these more than mk8's.
There should a new item & map added after every 1.5-2 month in the game and we desperately need new game mode and better progression all these thing will keep both p2w and f2p entertained more rather than mk8's

 

Since the start of the game it’s the same talent nothing add on it. It has been 2 years not 6 months. It’s time to increase it . And I said only 2 or 3 lvls no one said let’s make it by 20

 

Either you quoted the wrong guy or didn't understand my pt because your pt doesn't even remotely express anything I said care to explain?

 

I meant the talent has been 25 since two years the start of the game it’s time to increase it by 2 or 3.

I understand it’s hard for f2p to do but it’s 2 years and increasing 2 or 3 lvls won’t kill anyone. I see mk5s with 5000 inf now

 

Training talent levels? There's 30 levels now, but it would be nice to have more.

 

I meant 30 lol