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Hey devs, can you explain the differences in trophies per quest?

Discussion in 'Game Discussion' started by Help I Cant Swim, 20 Feb 2018.

  1. nikeej

    nikeej Active Member

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    Any Devs can confirm on this?


    @Zeus
     
  2. Shadow Moon!

    Shadow Moon! Well-Known Member

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    Nerf fixers:p:D.. Happy?
     
  3. Help I Cant Swim

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    @Shadow Moon! I'm just darn tired of leek beating me every week no matter what. Haha
     
  4. Help I Cant Swim

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    Wow..... I could complete Enforcer Win Machine, Star Hoarder and Ship Sinker on board 4 all by myself and I'd still have less trophies than if a Fixer completed just Protector by himself. What in the actual f....
     
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  5. Help I Cant Swim

    Help I Cant Swim MVP

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    Bump for somebody in-game to find.
     
  6. c3n3

    c3n3 Well-Known Member

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    I have a friend who didn’t do much for boards 1-3, but then he got on and did the protector quest and got second in our guild with 100k+ trophies. So this made me decide to try it out, and I got 10,000 trophies in a small amount of games maybe 2 or 3 (I am not a good fixer)
     
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  7. Spinners71

    Spinners71 Well-Known Member

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    Excellent analysis.
    The requirement thresholds for each of the different types of quests should be in better balance with each other.
     
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  8. Help I Cant Swim

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    Devs, we are having a really hard time gauging activity in our guild because of the imbalance in trophies. Can this be included in the anniversary update please?
     
  9. Djradnad

    Djradnad Well-Known Member

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    They granted more trophies for the quests they believed would be harder to complete, for instance, in order to do the fixer quest at 10k healing per game, then you would need to have invested in a good fixer.

    Contrarily, the win machine (any ship) rewards less because you don’t need anything in particular to complete it.

    It could be said that it’s not a perfect system, maybe if you got more trophies for the harder weapons you wouldn’t complain XD

    Also as for star hoarder ship sinker and dominator, they should all be the same but you just can’t get 3 stars and 2 kills often enough lol
     
  10. Help I Cant Swim

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    No no no. The "harder quests" are the Ship Sinker and the crazy weapons quests. Protector is the easiest quest every single week. Just ask Leek or Brett or Emperor. They can complete the Board 4 quest in like half an hour. And then they are given waayyyyy more trophies for it.

    It is fine that it is the easiest quest because it can only be completed by one fifth of the ships. It is not fine that it is the easiest AND it rewards the most. That's just silly. Double whammy. Either make it harder (would rather not) or make it have proportional trophies.

    Trophies should represent a player's activity in a certain guild rivalry, not whether or not they have chosen the quests that reward the most trophies.


    And it would also be awesome if the harder weapons gave more trophies, but that is a pipe dream and specific to each guild. I'm sure some other guilds don't struggle with mortars like we do.
     
  11. Rainbow Warrior

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    Maybe it is that way because of the lack of fixers' quests, a fixer usually won't damage or sink anyone
     
  12. Help I Cant Swim

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    They still do damage, it is just with fewer weapons. If a Shooter is only running one Sniper and an Mk5 Fixer has one Sniper, they probably end up doing about the same amount of damage with that specific weapon.

    But they can do the Win quests. And Stars. And Fixer wins. And Protector. That's 4 obvious ones. Plus they could do whatever weapon they have. If they are Mk6 they could do Mines very easily with dupes.

    They would have a hard time with the overall Damage quest. And maybe the Sinker quest. 2 out of 12...


    This is not just supposed to be anti-turtle. What about Speeders that almost never get higher damage output than Shooters? They probably do best on the Sinker quest. But they receive waayyyy less trophies for Sinking ships than a Shooter does for spamming Firebombs.

    Just balance the trophies based on required effort to complete each quest. That is all I ask and it really is not unreasonable.
     
  13. Rainbow Warrior

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    The problem is not having fewer weapons but to be focused on healing.
     
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  14. Help I Cant Swim

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    Yea I understand. And that logic would be fine to say that the Protector quest is the easiest to complete. But why is it the easiest to complete and the highest rewarding?

    I think it was also a huge mistake to remove the healing contribution towards damage. Who actually wanted this to happen? @The Grim Repair, @CaffeinatedChris
     
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  15. Rainbow Warrior

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    Once the devs make a few more fixers' quests or to facilitate the way they can contribute equally (what I think is way better than receive more trophies) to some of the other boats, I'm 100% with you, and I guess the devs will agree with you as well and then adjust it.
     
  16. Shadow Moon!

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    Speeders have lowest contribution rate as per miika's statistics. Even though I single handedly complete win machine on speeders I get way less trophies.
     
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  17. Rainbow Warrior

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    :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek: I didn't know that even doing way more damage they do less quests than fixers (that's what I call contribution)...
     
  18. Help I Cant Swim

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    Yep. That is because they are limited by the number and type of weapons they can use effectively and the Ship Sinker and Win Machine quests gives so few rewards. This issue is probably hurting Speeders and Defenders more than any other ship.
     
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  19. Djradnad

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    It may need adjusted sure, and if so they should do so, but like I said when they made fixer easier they probably just thought it was gonna be hard for some guilds.
     
  20. Miathan

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    Contribution in general refers to match contribution, the stat that stars are based on, not guild quest participation.
     

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