Grenade needs change

It’s just a swift torp with lower cooldown, typically lower cooldown items are a bit useless when you already have 4 or 5 other items ready to be used, but I could certainly find a place for it on a ship
And yes I love all items equally

 

Don't mind me, just jumping on the bandwagon...
Just recently started using nade's and managed to T5 my epic rather quickly, gotta say I love it!
As someone who mainly used cannons coming up, the ability to fire over obstacles definitely outweighs the "RnG" damage factor.

 

My tritorp/grenade speeder was a 5k infamy ship. Just saying..

 

Who said OP?
I think my point was possibly not 'total crap'

 

Lol this kid is sounding like an angry midget attacking people for commenting cos thier opinions are different
Lol you don’t need to know but, I spend very little time playing games and haven’t spent much money on BB at all
And where’s your comment even directed? I wasn’t arguing that grenades are op at all lol I was giving my opinion as to why it’s crit rate shouldn’t be nerfed
And this again is just my opinion but, grenades for me are much more fun then other weapons because of how they work

 

Yes, some things get crap at that level but most get op

 

Guys, I think you lost the point of this thread here. I’m not attacking you in any way. I’m not saying grenades are necessarily bad ( which they might or might not be ) I’m making this thread because grenades could be a lot more fun to use if they had some of the atributes that grenades have in real life. If you thought this thread was used to tell people if grenades need to be better or worse then go make your own thread about that and neutralize your vote. And please stop replying off topic ( especially about torpedoes ).

 

I never said anything about crit rates or damage. Go back and read the purpose of this thread or read my previous comment.

 

I’m sorry, you are constantly “attacking” me. Go back and read what the purpose of this thread was. This was never meant to be an argument about whether grenades are good or not, I was stating that grenades could be a lot more fun if they were a lot more realistic. I never said anything about damage or crit rates, ( except the time in the beginning were I said to lower the damage so it won’t be over powered if the changes happen ) I simply said that if we change grenades in the right way, they’ll be a lot more fun to use.

 

What do you think is the better quality of mortars(3 of 1point mortars) than what grenade has?
Damage? Nope
Projectile speed? Nope
Range? In most cases, no
Convenience? Nope

Grenade is my one of favourtie weapon cus it's damn op now. Grenade just need a big range nuff.

 

It’s pathetic to see you grasp for straws to try proving your point, without even hiding your bias.

“Range? In most cases,no” hahaha whatever that means!!
You didn’t even mention the cooldown or radius.

Anyways, here are some stats I have for you.. unfortunately I don’t have them all t5 with dmg perks to compare but this should suffice just comparing stats since they are fully trained..
My grenade perks are reach and strike
My mortar perks are reach.
I also have the grenade and std mortar on my enfo with a brutal perk, and did a match to show you the actual dmg of my mortar with frost which you may have forgotten. Grenade does leave them open for fire dmg usually. Just everything on the table for reference I have to offer.

 

Question is does it really need that ? Cuz Grenade is already in the risk of being nerfed or it should be at least anyway.
The total Dmg of grenade with fire is crazy for a 1-slot weapon

 

You still have to get good at hitting people more or less dead on with it, which is typically quite a bit harder than most other weapons.

 

The radius used to be much smaller.. now even if you miss the direct hit it’s gonan hurt them.. I certainly do think it needs a tiny dmg nerf (less than 10%) but so do all cannons and flare :/

 

Omg.. you know the 20 range is long enough to shoot anywhere on the map. Right
And that 3000dmg with frost + direct hit bonus.. LUL
Use it well instead of nade. I'll cheer for you lul

 

You mean lul as in lol, right?

 

Range of 20 good enough to hit anywhere on map? Huh?

 

I think maybe you should go back and read through? My original comment about damage and crit wasn’t in response to something you said lol your aware that after creating a thread there can be multiple conversations with multiple people right?
That part of my txt was in response to something someone else said about grenades being op and needing crit rate nerfed think it was Warhawk (Nicolas) maybe