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Getting shorted on gold/sugar

Discussion in 'Bugs, Issues & Inquiries' started by Carl2801, 27 Jul 2018.

  1. luka3000

    luka3000 Member

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    Can it be enough to cheat their players fellow developers? All the players from my guild after the update noticed that gold was getting less for battles. If before the battle for 3 stars gave at least 50k gold, but now 39-40k total. How do you explain this? Was it done on purpose or is it a mistake?
     
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  2. Gnu

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    The developer team said that they hadn't changed anything for the battle rewards in the last update.
     
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  3. Joey who

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    Yet any time I check VIP chat there is someone complaining about lower rewards
     
  4. ShipCrusherCz

    ShipCrusherCz Well-Known Member

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    Does it really matter?
    and Miika even gave us a graff of average rewards
     
  5. ScrapKing

    ScrapKing Active Member

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    Nice bandage name cover :p
    That's defenietly such less rewards for a 150% BATTLE REWARD BONUS
     
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  6. luka3000

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    Before the update and after! Do you need proof?
     

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  7. ShipCrusherCz

    ShipCrusherCz Well-Known Member

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    Does it really matter?
    you should search the forums before creating threads
    https://forum.battlebay.net/threads/do-battle-rewards-decrease-after-3-1-patch.21101/
    Miika's replies on this topic:
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    is this enough?
     
  8. Pa4eJIJIo

    Pa4eJIJIo Member

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    It's "average hospital temperature"
    But I really feel that MY earning in Nihtmare becomes 20% less :confused:
     
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  9. Kurd1stan.

    Kurd1stan. Well-Known Member

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    idk about this , because i never payed attention how much reward i get and i will never do

    but if many and many players are complaining about this and they are pretty sure so they are right and devs are wrong
     
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  10. Cpt Obvious

    Cpt Obvious Well-Known Member

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    Just that it seems to do that here in my battle log, I don't know for sure, it could be a fluke.
    Also, we've just hit end season here, and end season usually have tons more handicap games (+21/22/23) in my experience.

    That said, mine also feel slightly lower lately. But then again, Grand Paladin in my guild just had a record 71k gold game.. So I dunno o_O
     
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  11. luka3000

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    I've been reading all these topics. I've been playing this game for over a year and I know how much I've received before gold for battles. And I maintain that 3 star awards were cut by 20% !
     
  12. ShipCrusherCz

    ShipCrusherCz Well-Known Member

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    Does it really matter?
    I, for example, have same rewards as before update, I haven't recieved the really high (for me) rewards in past week or two, but that's because my battle perfomance with speeder is now somehow stable, before, I did highest (usually twice as much as the second person in my team) or lowest damage in battle, now I am third or better in my team, so I don't recieveve small nor big rewards
    I guess that there are many more players with same rewards as before, but unly those who recieve lower rewards have reason to come here and write about their rewards, that's probably also why devs don't see any significant changes in overall average and median of rewards, it's only majority of players with lower rewards, so it has no significant impact on overall stats
     
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  13. Pa4eJIJIo

    Pa4eJIJIo Member

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    My playing on Defender is very stable (in Nigtmare)
    And usually I have got >50 000 for "good battles"
    Now I have got max 35 000 for the same battles
    There is no miracles in computer world ;)
    Algorithm was definetly chanched !!!

    So please don't tell to us that black is white ;)
    Simple say: rules were changed and now they are ... ;)
     
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  14. Cpt Obvious

    Cpt Obvious Well-Known Member

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    I just plotted my 100 last non-event wins.
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    There is definitely a downward trend, but I don't know if I have enough data say that it's statistically significant. There seems to be much more variance in the gold for my last 20 wins (which caused the falling trend line). Also feels like there used to be more games in the 50k range. But again, I only have a handful of data points.

    (That said, I believe them when they say that they didn't change anything).
     
  15. ShipCrusherCz

    ShipCrusherCz Well-Known Member

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    Does it really matter?
    1. there must be some other reason, than algorithm change (at least change for all levels), that would cause changes for everyone, that did not happen, so it must be something else
    2. why would devs say, that no changes were made, if it was obvious, that they made some changes? there is imo no point in denying obvious truth
    3. I said, that data from devs are not same as your observations, data from devs have imo bigger "weight", than feelings of some players (and also screenshots of some results)
    4. something has changed, but not algorithm, because change of algorithm would cause decrease/increase (in this case decrease) of rewards for everyone;)
     
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  16. Cpt Obvious

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    Thinking about it, best idea I can come up with to disprove the "conspiracy theories" (and at the same time verify that nothing seemingly unrelated had any unintended consequences) would be to:
    1. Pick say.. the top 250 players..
    2. Query the database for their combined gold winning mean and std.dev grouped by date.
    3. Plot a pretty graph of [mean, mean + std.dev, mean - std.dev] over time (last 100 days?).
    If mean and std.dev seems stable, then there's likely no reduced reward problem, and we're just seeing ghosts :)
     
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  17. Nicolas

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    I have a BS in mathematics, and it was hard for me to understand all this stuff.

    ur guildmate :)
     
  18. Cpt Obvious

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  19. luka3000

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    The awards for the fight for 3 stars became smaller and this is a fact.
     
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  20. Viacheslav

    Viacheslav New Member

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    complete agreement. rewards are down. and it is unfortunately not fun. before played days, now t only daily quests to do. interest in the game disappeared. made the misery of the great game
     
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