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Fixer coins still broken.

Discussion in 'Game Discussion' started by Oggog, 6 Jul 2018.

  1. Oggog

    Oggog Active Member

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    For healing, on drawn out games I'll hit into the 50ks near 60k, shorter games will be 30-40k. Very short games will be 10-20k. For DM games I'm almost always in the 30-40k range. Damage is almost always 10-12k with the occassional 20k. The occassional 20k games will net the 8 coin battle if we won and I'm closer to the top of the list. Keep in mind that my damage + heals is often 10k higher than people that are getting 2 more coins than me. The last screenshot I have shows just that. I finished first in the list (not sure this means anything since the sort order appears to have been broken) and had combined 12k higher than the next highest. That same next highest was awarded 2 more coins than I was.

    The main point I'm trying to make is that the fixer should be on par in regards to coin earning power with any other boat and that just does not appear to be the case. I have multiple friends in game that all switch to other boats for DM for the same reasons. This is anecdotal obviously, but it is all I have to go on since I don't get to see data or code.
     
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  2. c3n3

    c3n3 Well-Known Member

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    I understand your point, I agree too, but it is possible as a fixer, you just have to be less of a fixer. When I play with healing items my Max healing is around 6k, but damage is 20-30k and I get 8-10 coins every win
     
  3. Oggog

    Oggog Active Member

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    Got it. To play as a fixer, don't play as a fixer. Makes sense?? Also, your suggestion does not work at all on the 1v1 match. I play with tape, kill the other guy and get the win. 6 coins. Often the same as the unfriend.

    At least we agree it is broken. Not even sure why they created the fixer. It has been the whipping boy pretty much since I started playing.
     
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  4. Oggog

    Oggog Active Member

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    Sad to say it is still broken for capture the flag. 6 coins, 6 coins, 6 coins. Switch to shooter and get roughly same amount of damage, 8 coins.
     
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  5. c3n3

    c3n3 Well-Known Member

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    Oh yes, I wrote about 1v1s elsewhere, I had some matches where I got less coins even though I won
     
  6. Oggog

    Oggog Active Member

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    2v2 event and fixer coins still broken. Getting just as many coins with shooter loss as I am with Fixer wins. Also, since the latest patch, gold rewards have been drastically reduced. I rarely break 40k gold per win where I was doing it all the time before. Progress on my boat is already EXTREMELY slow and with these issues it just got slower. Inching ever closer to done with this game.
     
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  7. TVNPryde

    TVNPryde Well-Known Member

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    The fact that the contribution system is flawed and the devs keep making excuses are annoying. Make self heal number at 75% or something. It's still a number that do good for the team. A selfish fixer can sweep a mine that possibly damaging to a team.

    I have a few screenshots of everyone in the battle get the same coins. You tell me that's right calculation?
     
  8. Ovidmikel

    Ovidmikel Active Member

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    And in there lies the problem .the devs don't see it as broken tell you so in smug matter of fact way . And fix nothing . First rule of business CUSTOMER IS ALWAYS RIGHT. SUCCESSFUL BUSINESS ANYWAY fixers have got less stars less gold now less coins from GIT. Hasn't changed in over 2 yrs you really think it is ever . I'm like most other fixers spent all my resources on making a stong fixer always getting less gold sugar stars which folks say it's just useless star crates ..no it's green parts . If the dev don't see the problem and give matter of fact answers stating that fact what can you do . Cut losses and find a different game . It's saw this is one of the best games I ever played as far as game play . But being run in the ground and ruined by incompetent arrogent devs
     
  9. Help I Cant Swim

    Help I Cant Swim MVP

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    1v1 and 2v2 have exacerbated what I feel is a major flaw in Fixer contribution calculations... the (assumed) exclusion of self-healing. Honestly, if the devs don't want to include self-healing as a part of a Fixer's contribution, then why did they even bother making the Duct Tape?
     
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  10. Oggog

    Oggog Active Member

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    I'm not that hostile to the devs. The game is great. I don't agree with all of the decisions or the reasoning I see given but I am still having fun. Since my boat progression has slowed to almost a standstill I'm not sure how much longer that will last but we will see. I post here hoping for improvements as I see them but I don't think the devs are bad people. Probably not helpful to be calling them names in any case. They are still human after all. (Unless AlphaGo is coding this game right before it takes over the world and we just haven't heard yet.)
     
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  11. Oggog

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    Based on my battles in this last event compared to previous events, I was earning coins as a fixer on par with coins as my shooter. This was 5v5. Will report back with more good news if this trend continues for 2v2 and 1v1. Hopefully there was a change in the calculation and not just because 5v5 works differently.

    Gold rewards still seem to average much less than before. Although the max earned here still seems to be as high as before.
     
  12. Ovidmikel

    Ovidmikel Active Member

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    I totally agree thime gameplay is awsome. But here's a other ridiculous problem. I've played fixer over a yr and a half mde it to nightmare even to 4500 a couple of seasons .we im bored of fixer so I decide to play shooter which I've never played and so over 3 seasons I dropped to 3000 infamy last season my high infamy was 3400 the season before 3800 but now im getting reduced rewards for so called seal clubbing . Which is ridiculous because how can you seal clubbed when everyone elase has leg weapons and t5 epics wtf . So what I have to play fixer to gain infamy or just deal with seal clubbed reward .what you think I'm gonna do . I'll text ya play events only . Damn if I'll be forcerd to play a ship I'm tired of because I'm trying to learn a new ship .EVENTD ONLY I GUESS and if rewards are reduced in them to I'll play even less . Ood gameplay only goes so far . Being penalized for doing absolutely nothing wrong is COMOLETE BULLSHIT
     

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