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EX Cannon is Busted since last 2 updates. FIX suggested below

Discussion in 'Game Discussion' started by *JAWS*, 13 Feb 2018.

  1. Babablacksheep

    Babablacksheep Well-Known Member

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  2. SlayerofSergeants

    SlayerofSergeants Well-Known Member

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    People are still running it because it takes time to level up and outfit a suitable replacement weapon.

    This nerf has critically gimped Defenders. Having to get up close to shoot, then sitting like a lame duck for nearly 15 seconds waiting for reload is abysmal.

    Why the on Earth nerf the range? Due to slow projectile speed, this cannon was already difficult to hit at long range. Such a screwed up excuse for "balance".
     
  3. ViscountSniffit

    ViscountSniffit Well-Known Member

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    Lame duck is right. It’s the same on Speeder, between 15 seconds waiting for Ex Cannon, and 18 Seconds waiting for Tesla Bolt... I feel like I’ve stunned myself. :(
     
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  4. American Marauder

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    Explosive Cannon has been diluted to the point of being ridiculous. I don't care so much about the distance nerf, but the cool down increase is ridiculous. Why so extreme? A 1 second increase would have been more than enough. If you feel it's OP for some reason, then it's because of the fire damage. There's a simple solution for that without ruining the weapon.

    - Make fire damage increase in training not apply to Explosive Cannon. That will decrease damage by 20%. We still have the burn perks that can add extra burn damage.

    - Decrease cool down to 13.3 seconds like Big Torpedo which does almost twice the damage an EC does.

    The Explosive Cannon is a Defender's primary weapon. We get 3 total. We're easy to hit and slower than hell. Those additional cool down seconds leave us vulnerable. I sat there getting shot while my ECs reloaded. It was ridiculous. If you're going to reduce its distance and increase it's cool down then increase it's damage. Please. This is the 2nd time you've castrated this weapon. What's next, it's going to shoot marshmallows?
     
  5. Da Carronade King

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    Its funny wtachng these explosive cannon users reload, as I get two shots with my carronade in, while also having time to speed away or use my duct tapes.
     
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  6. Help I Cant Swim

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    I’ve got a question related to explosive cannon.... why doesn’t it explode when it hits the water? Every other aerial-based AOE weapon does. Why shouldn’t an explosive cannon do the same?

    And I agree with @AmericanMarauder. I’ve put down my EC because it doesn’t fit on my Enforcer. However, I had a quest for it today to get 3 kills and it was miserable. My blast cannon feels like the 2-point weapon now.
     
  7. Miku Da Yo 39

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    You part of the Duct side?
     
  8. Stelmo

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    Because every missed shot would still hit for 1500 damage, it still does if there's a wall behind you.
    I'm still seeing entire teams torn apart by defenders with 2 ec's in a matter of a minute since the well deserved nerf.
     
  9. Help I Cant Swim

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    But why wouldn’t it explode when it hits the water? It doesn’t make sense that the water makes every other projectile explode except for the explosive cannon. Just a thought. Not sure what the ramifications of changing that would be.
     
  10. Stelmo

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    It'd be too easy to just aim for the water near a ship, especially a shielded enfo.
     
  11. Kalbs

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    Come to think about it, grenade launcher explodes on water. It's probably made out of plastic lol
     
  12. TheAntiSnipe

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    The new update just killed excannon as an incendiary combo on anything but a trained flare or firebomb. I cannot chain two shots even on a 15.5 second flare. Looks like it's back to the ole blasty for me.
     
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  13. *JAWS*

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    @The Grim Repair
    @Miika

    American Mauraders points are correct.
    U have nerfed this weapon to only be used at close range. But then the cool down is worse the big torpedo. With less the damage. The cool down needs to be adjusted. And the damage needs to raise. Or u have crippled defenders. This is a fact.

    All defenders saw a 500 point infamy drop from this nitemare. Below. For defenders still stuck with 2 ex cannon setup. The drop will be worse.
    I die many times now waiting for my cool down. What am i suppossed to do when only having these weapons. Its out of range now for every thing. Except if u get medium or close. And at that point a defender is a big torp magnet.

    So. Devs please up the base damage for the love of all things Defender. And move the cool down to something usuable. Big Torpedo would be a a fair number.

    Dont leave defenders rocked like this.
    Personally I spent hard earned money to get my ex cannons like this. Its been wasted from this too harsh nerf.
    Ps. I still play my setup primarily like pre nerf to really undrtand how bad it is.
    I am now getting players sending me messages going. Really Jaws. Pissed at me because of a game i cant break 6k.
    Other games I will do great and reach 16k.

    Before nerf. I could reach 10k without. And 20 to 30k damage.
    Its a massive dps drop off. And it shows in my battles logs. Why the huge drop off in damage? Cool down.
    And I die.

    This dilutes what the role of defender is. A defender is a meat shield who get into unfriends face and then creates damage.

    With this nerf we are now just a meat shield.

    Reaction in strategy for defenders: more big blues welcome to whole new level of camper.
    I know many defenders who are going sniper. U thought shooters were bad campers. Wait till u get a whole crew of mk.7 with only snipers?
    This is a Meta Mistake. And needs fixed asap. Developers I hope your are hearing defender and ex cannon user feed back and make a quick adjustment. Thanks.

    Jaws
     
  14. TheAntiSnipe

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    Guys, let's be blunt here. Excannon has been nerfed sooooo hard it's now literally only fit to be a one slot weapon.
     
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  15. Stelmo

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    50% of the global top 10 with excannon on though.. mysterious..
     
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  16. TheAntiSnipe

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    Haha that's because even P2P need time to get themselves a new wep.
     
  17. Crashedup

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    Check how many speeders or defenders have them equipped
    Check how many speeders have tesla bolt and how many of them are f2p and can't change their setup
    Also check how many speeders are rocking the complete ex canon and tesla bolt setup.
     
  18. Kalbs

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    There is not much of an incentive in using Explosive Cannon over Blast Cannon other than additional 100-200 damage.

    Higher cooldown than Blast Cannon, same range, lower DPS, lower accuracy (due to slow projectile) and takes up 2 slot. Oh it has splash damage with a small radius, barely can take advantage of it. Splash damage reduced too.

    The devs didn't even explain why they did it.

    I wish I have another weapon to replace it :(
     
  19. Crashedup

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    Same here i don't have another weapon to replace it thats why m losing infamy like crazy.
    I spent 6 months building it if devs don't make it viable again then I have no choice but to leave battle bay because I sure as hell can't waste another 6 months to build another weapon and hope that it won't get busted again when devs feel like it.
     
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  20. *JAWS*

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    Another course of action I suggest to you since I feel what ya feel.
    . Use it till u get a legendary weapon. And 1 other weapon with it. Get a legendary weapon from that also.
    Once you have 2 legendary weapons. You can start on your 3rd. This will up your arsenal. And this will allow you to only have 1 ex cannon you use if used.
    And gear you up to be a shooter. Since shooters are the one ship they never nerf.
    Choose your 2cd weapon wisely. Might I suggest blast cannon. They will never nerf that weapon either.

    This convo is depressing. How much they made our ex cannon suck.
     

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