EX Cannon is Busted since last 2 updates. FIX suggested below

I guess I said it doesn't matter if EC is a 1 or 2 slot weapon. It was based on of those off the top of my head thoughts.
Now we can consider the effects and if you want it to be one slot, you have my support man. But really think about it. If EC is 1 slot, who would run weapons with low damage. EC is effective as hell and does have the splash damage advantage as @PastelPiku pointed out. Plus the overall damage is the same as before which is more than blast. Reducing the slot points will cause speeders and enfos to run 2 EC setup. It makes no sense. Epics hit 1200+ and rares hit close to 1000 per shot maxed out. You really want a sure 2000 for rares and 2400 for epics damage to run by you? And there are fire combos as well. If you are lit you will receive 2500-3000 damage from 2 rares and 4000+ from 2 epics in just one cycle.
I run a speeder and imo it will make speeders OP. And you will know what double blast does with flare on a enfo. I ran against black lotus in a match and he almost destroyed me and a mk7 speeder single handedly. With EC it will be an even stronger combo making yellow boats too powerful. It will be an all EC setup fest. Enfos will definitely rule with flare and 2 epic EC setup hitting (if we consider ysl's setup) almost 5000 per cycle. Fixers won't stand a chance with their heals. It will be a new frost-torp like combo on the bay. Defenders will climb up quickly with their massive tanking abilities but will they be able to take out an enfo? Have to confirm from a defender player.
A full out brawl on the bay imo is not fun. The entire meta will be dumped in a trash can. I don't even want to think about high tier legendary ones. I haven't seen much of those in Ace 1 so yeah, makes sense to keep it 2 slot for now or at least that's my side of the story. What do you say, anything to add?

 

The fact of the matter is that Ex Cannon has higher Base damage than blast cannon and is the only cannon that has splash. Why should a 2 point weapon which contains both these attributes, have the same projectile speed and low cooldown as blast cannon? That's making explosive cannon OP af. The way Ex Cannon is right now is still the meta. People are still running it and it is no where near or remotely close to how bad the frost Nerf was.

If you guys want to buff ex cannon range, damage and projectile speed, then remove splash.

 

BC has 3.5 sec lower cooldown + almost same dps + same range + higher projectile speed and is one slot but yeah EC has splash which comes in handy in few situations so it's better than BC right now is that your pt?
PS: splash dmg is only 75% and aoe of radius 2 is not game changing.

 

I never said make EC 1 slot but the stats that it rocks now doesn't justify its 2 slots ( read my above answer to pastel Piku ).
Secondly even if it's made 1 slot peeps will run the flare combo only because the flare+ ex canon dmg is way higher than simply running two EC.

 

It should stay as 2 slots, just make the splash bigger.

 

Get ur facts right
First ex canon has the lowest projectile speed in the game way lower than blast.
Second the EC always had longer cooldown wrt blast canon.
There was difference of 1.1 sec in cooldown.
EC only had advantage in splash and little range with higher base but that's all justified for it being two slot same as the case of big torp and swift torp.
And aoe of radius 2 was not op it was already nerfed to 75% of base dmg.

 

That will make it op

 

Are you kidding, mk6 defenders are making my life miserable lol.. I believed defender needed buff now I'm certain it does not

 

You people should be happy, that thing is now hardest to play on shooter and well enfo can't even play it. Shooter can't rush like defender or hit n run like speeder. DECREASED range made it more usable for speeder and defender or should I say more exclusive. Stop complaining, Railgun was nerfed even harder than this, so was tri torp.You should be happy that Nerf is more sensible amd at least the lweapon is usable

 

Comparison between blast and excanon.
Blast canon is of my friend while excanon is mine and both of us have bhurt trained to lvl 25 and both of us have same perks

Blast canon still has 4 more levels to upgarde so add 20*4 more dmg that makes total dmg of
1053+80 = 1133.
And dps of 102
So ex canon has 50 more dmg and spalsh of radius 2 ( with only 75% of total dmg being accounted in case of splash) and is 2 slot
While blast has 4 speed better projectile speed
Same range and 20 better dps and 3.3 sec lower cooldown and is one slot how is this balanced??
@The Grim Repair @Miika @Zeus
PS: the dps of two slot weapons is always more in same category compare swift or big torp or ballpark or Berta.
That's what makes them eligible for 2 slots.

 

I need my range back at least. I used to lob my ex cannon and love doing many cool shot with it, but now I feel restricted.

IMO, 2 radius slow projectile with 75% dmg splash are not OP at all (it just add a slight dmg bonus, no one dumb enough to stick too close after getting hit once). Plus no critical dmg happen at all during splash (I'm using crit perk on my ex cannon).

 

Rail-Gun is One of the lowest DPS weapon(Source-One of thread made for DPS), is Two slotted, misses easily and has damage reduction upto 70% being lowest DPS weapon.

Im not saying railgun is bad, just the fact that weapons are 2 slotted to restrict thier usage upto certain limits. Imagine enforcer with 3 Rail-guns. And also your explosive will gain extra 10% at level 27 Bhurt which will be practically more than that since it will also enhance perks

And also Standard mortar has highest Dps in mortar category and standard canon has highest DPS in canon category...

 

No it will not be more than that my base dmg is 686 so 10% of it is 68.6 so total dps will be 87 still 15 less.
Tier 5 epic railgun does 2400 dmg with epic perks dmg perks
And there are two 5% cooldown talent under buzzkill
So the total cooldown of railgun will come down to 19.8 sec
2400/19.8 sec = 121 dps so railgun has a great dps not lowest check ur sheet it has wrong data.
Berta has a better dps than std mortar check ur calculation

 

Have you compared Rail Dps other epics since you are asking for credibility of the chart? Why do i need to check my calculation since you are the who calculated 121 Dps and called it GREAT DPS without any resonable Comparison with other T5.


Explosive T5 Epic has DPS of 101 without any damages perks(3 crit and 1 burn, confirmed by in game source). So its DPS WILL be completely different if you add 4 damage perks and yet will it will get a boost from Burn.Get your facts right! Before fooling around lol. And also explosive Damage increases By fire just by training bhurt(Or should i say is enhanced) while railgun has same Dps and damage reduction in close range. SO practical DPS of railgun is even lower ...

The chart is before The update(Hence explosive nerf) and is not mine. ALTHOUGH i believe its accurate.

IT doesn't change that slot distribution is not according to DPS (Because it still leaves std canon and Std mortar much better than other in its group)

Even after the nerf The Dps of Rare explosive and Rare railgun T5 is almost same (Explosive-85 ; Railgun-84). I asked the players in game. And as i said and according to chart they both sucked at DPS even before update.



I will confirm about epic railgun(You are probably right, Still 121 is not a great DPS for an epic and i bet other epics will have better DPS) and reply to this further ...

[Edit--The current dps of T4 rare my swift Torpedo is 95 is better than a maxed Rail-Gun (83).How's that for great DPS, genius?)

 

I did thats why I said it's a great dps seriously if you would have done some math it would have helped you a lot and would have stopped you from making a fool of urself here.
See my above pic my dmg maxes out at 1425 with one more 10% training to go.
I have 686 base dmg rn so let's say that by the time it reaches lvl 50 it increases by 114 and reaches to 800 ( which I highly doubt it will increase that much but nevertheless)
The total dmg then would be.
1425 + 10% of 800 = 1505.
1505/14.4 sec = 104 dps
Railgun has a lot better dps.
And both are two slot weapons not 1.
And didn't I tell you to compare b/w same categories.
Your next pt the dps of rare explosive canon dps didn't change??
So you are actually telling me that the cooldown of explosive canon was increased by 2.2 sec and damage was kept constant but the dps didn't change?
See where I have a problem believing you.
Ur swift has more dps than railgun again when will you understand compare under same category.
Edit: this was comparision b/w two cannons and you just made it all about dps of different weapons bottom pt is ex canon is worse than blast canon in every way except splash and it needs to be balanced correctly.
If you have pts regarding that do answer it otherwise pm me about ur every query about dps realtion b/w weapons.
Or make another thread
Learn to answer to whole pt not just part of it

 

Lol

 

For the missile launcher and carronade, is this per missile or altogether DPS.

 

Ex Canon is really weak with the last update .... the -3 range is so annoying