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Events not even.... not even close

Discussion in 'Game Discussion' started by Grand Admiral V, 7 Jul 2018.

  1. Mr Meaner

    Mr Meaner Active Member

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    I bring this underpowered boat to battle every battle... I'm always overmatched. But I win...

    GET GUD!
     
  2. Muxxos

    Muxxos New Member

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    You are underpowered? and overmatched? and you win? Find the mistake. *rotfl*
     
  3. Mr Meaner

    Mr Meaner Active Member

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    Shall I post some screenshots?
     
  4. Muxxos

    Muxxos New Member

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    Yes please.
     
  5. ViscountSniffit

    ViscountSniffit Well-Known Member

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    As an experiment, I decided to buy a full set of uncommons for my mk3 Shooter, to see what it was like playing in some newb battles. Here is a picture of my boat, kitted out with all my shiny new greens. D3FAA1FA-51CF-4302-9E27-6E4CC0D592D4.png

    Almost immediately, I run into this guy with a full set of Legendaries. Apparently, rarity doesn’t matter. Even though these items are ten times more powerful, matchmaking sees them as fair.
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    In the course of the next ten games, I met a whole bunch of guys like that. This one is my favourite: an Ace 1 player with t4 Epic Blast+Burn combo, and he’s getting matched against newbs with uncommons. All he’s done here is stripped the perks.
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    Armed with this knowledge, I decided to make some changes to my ship, to see if it affected my matches. It didn’t. Even though I’m running a Legendary, and all Epics (including a t2), so long as I don’t run too many perks, I’m still getting matched against newbs from challenger league. Here is what I changed:

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    Even though I’m able to one-hit every ship I meet, it wasn’t quite broken enough having only 2k hp. So I decided to switch over to my Defender, and run my Epic Big Shield.
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    Success!
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    As a further example of how stupidly unfair this is. Here is a game where my wingman was a Floater. I was still able to win 4-1 on my own.
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    I don’t see how we’re ever going to get fair games, when item rarity and item level isn’t even being taken into account. Matching NML players, who can put out thousands worth of DPS, against newbs with uncommons — just because they removed some perks —it’s ridiculous. “Powerscore” aught it take into account your actual power, if you’re running Legendaries and t4 Epics then you’re clearly more powerful than Challenger League guys with Uncommons.
     
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  6. Mr Meaner

    Mr Meaner Active Member

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    Here's my boat...
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    Here's a few recent battles... I'm underpowered in all of them
     
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  7. Muxxos

    Muxxos New Member

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    Thank you a lot, this helps me a lot to understand why i'm ranked vs. so high level players!
     
  8. Muxxos

    Muxxos New Member

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    Indeed with this 10k boat ... you won this matches! Very impresive. But we talk about players with less then 9k.
     
  9. Mr Meaner

    Mr Meaner Active Member

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    Okay, but my gs is less than 10k
     
  10. BasedCarpen

    BasedCarpen Well-Known Member

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    Exactly this. They're all bragging how they're on their 5th or 6th round of legendary perks while I've been grinding through heavily outgunned matches to scrape by just one
     
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  11. TheAntiSnipe

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    Again with you not reading full messages.

    What is it with people these days?
     
  12. envylife

    envylife Well-Known Member

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    Your T5 Epic Canon is getting you Nightmare matches. Unload that and you will be astonished how much different the matches are.
     
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  13. envylife

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    I like your experiment! Your initial matches had opponents with 2x your Gear Score... that's not exactly Gear Score matchmaking, is it?

    I don't think it's necessary to take item rarity/level into account when they key metric is DPS (for weapons). DPS takes into account training, perks, everything, while Gear Score does not. Gear Score could do that, and should, but let's face it, it's not even clear Gear Score is used as primary in EventMatchmaker(tm)... no use fixing Gear Score until it is actually used as primary in matchmaking... and then you can work on the issues with Gear Score itself.
     
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  14. Yomama!

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    But that would be setting myself up right? As others are stating. I love my canon lol
     
  15. What's Up Player

    What's Up Player Well-Known Member

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    People on this thread lmao. :D
    @TheAntiSnipe how come you haven't locked this one yet? It literally just went from "matchmaking sucks" topic to personal attacks..
     
  16. Muxxos

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    Hum? Finally i got my response from ViscountSniffit. So for me this topic is closed.
     
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  17. Muxxos

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    Very nice hint. Thank you for this post. :)
     
  18. envylife

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    EventMatchmaker(tm) thinks that if you have one Epic T5, then all your items must also be Epic T5, and thus you get Nightmare players. Standard Canon isn't the best weapon for 1v1 or 2v2 weapon anyhow. Try it for 10 matches and report back.
     
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  19. Mr. Patel

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    Whatever this gearscore is doesn't make any sense. So let me say one thing. my main ship is fixer so I have my epic repair pulse at lvl 50 and max is blast cannon at level 40epic. But now if i try playing shooter at mk6 I don't have all weapons at epics t4. so I took my t4 rares on the bay and now matched with top 50 players. not at all acceptable. Something is totally wrong with the system and that's the truth. periods........
     
  20. Mr. Patel

    Mr. Patel Active Member

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    Totally agree with your statement. only powerful players can have fun with this event. And as always fixers suffer the most.
     

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