Defender ,, gear lupe and rudder!!!!!

It's nice that u r enjoying the game , defender is definitely a fun ship ,,, u will just start realising the problem soon once u reach a higher infamy lvl ,,,,,, as i said defender is a balanced ship however its problems become very clear at the top of the nightmare leage.

 

I've noticed people saying that, but I've never been clear that the people saying it have actually tried a rudder/lube build. Have you given it a serious try?

 

Always ran a rudder on defender since I started playing, it’s each to their own I would prefer the extra mobility to the extra 1k+ sheild. Same again with bandages have always ran two bandages until recent where now use just one and extra shield. (Stupid fire healing debuff) defender is just in a terrible place right now, apart from the HP it is worst in every department

 

Running both lube and rudder is like fixers running 3 duct tapes. Lose a lot but gain a little something else. Losing a shield means to lose a chunk of HP for more agility percentage wise that is already very low. If you think that lube or rudder can help you dodge 2000 hp worth damage or kill faster, then it may be worth it but I highly doubt it. With extra 2000 hp, that’s extra time to potentially get kills yourself or from the team.

 

I use rudder on defender and love it. You don' really need gear lube once you figure out how to reverse pivot and move your turret at the same time. Nobody can circle you this way. They need stun to be able to get me now....lol

 

I agree

 

Or u can still kill speeders with the 4 second reload of a STD CANNON

 

Max epic t4 with 2 extra copies hehe

 

not if you can't turn fast enough.

 

Shhhhhh!! They both suck!!!!! SHHHHHHH!!! LMAO




Turkett

 

With all due respect, this has not been my experience.
Preface: this may, in fact be subjective to the level I current play at 2K infamy with mk5 Defender, but I have kept detailed logs of the battle results of multiple different configurations with my Defender.

I run 1 Rare Large Shield (level 40 with 3 epic +150 Shield point perks), 1 Rare Turbo (level 40 with 2 epic and 1 rare speed perk), 1 Rare Bandage (level 30 with 3 epic repair boost perks), and 1 Rare Gear Lube (level 37, with 1 epic and 2 rare turret rotation perks)

This config consistently outperforms (not by a huge margin, but consistently) more common Defender configurations.

I assume that this is also HIGHLY dependent upon the weapons you use. I find this platform works best with [Sniper, Sniper, Fire Bomb], [Quick Cannon, Sniper, Fire Bomb] and even [Quick Cannon, Sniper, Long Range Mortar]

Notice that none of these use all of the available slot points, yet in the past week, i re-gained 700 infamy and hit 3 quad kills and one Penta. All in one week.

That is hardly "useless"

jimboto.

 

People give me crap all day long about my setup.
Honestly, I came across it completely my accident. I was doing a Defender quest because my Guild Capt. talked me into it. I was getting destroyed running every damn shield I had and plodding along to try to keep up with the battle. That didn't work very well. I tried loading up with turbos, put Defender maxes out at 1.38. respectable, but you aren't going to run away from too much.

After like the 10th battle in a row where I was destroyed by the Speeder drive-by whiplash move. as i went up in flames as my turret rotated like a herd of turtles in a sea of peanut butter... I remembered that I had an epic Gear Lube in my inventory that i had never gotten around to scrapping.

So... with the only goal being to roll into at least 10 battles and hit a Speeder on the way in on a drive by, and spank him on the way out, I started leveling up and evolving my slippery little friend.

Then, a week or so later, with a burning hot ember of revenge deep in my soul, I outfitted my Defender thusly:

Level 40 rare quick canon with 3 epic cannon damage perks
Level 40 rare sniper with 30% crit chance
Level 23 epic sniper with 20% crit chance
Level 40 rare turbo with full perks
Level 23 turbo with full perks
Level 40 Rare Large Shield with all the fixin's
Level 30 Gear Lube with 2 rare and 1 epic turret rotation perks

Game 1
Subzero. Iam posted up off-right to the center opening and about 1/3 of the way towards the back wall, sniper pointing forward.
About 20 seconds in, I catch a Speeder bolting through the starboard archway bearing to speed past my flank.
As he closed the distance, my turret literally SNAPS around, like an Enforcer and locks on. I lead him... just a touch... and just as he hits me with a quick cannon round, I hit him for 425 damage with Sniper 1.
I whip the turret to the port and it dutifully SNAPS around and locks on his ass when he is about 10 clicks past me. No need to even lead because he is not veering in any way as he has never seen a Defender with a fast turret.
<plink> <BAM !>
He vaporizes with a 1247 crit hit to the ass and the burning carcass drifts to a boiling pool of burning oil.

Game 2
Quad kill

Game 3
2 kills, 3 stars, 12k damage

etc.

I've tried convincing myself that it's a fluke and swapping for more conventional setups, but they just don't perform as well.

In summary.

People think speeder = fast and annoying like a purse snatcher, defender = big fat playground bully, But most machines can be setup to play different roles.

I'm just saying, without ANY speculation... I don't have OPINIONS about this, I have EXPERIENCE of this. This is a legitimately successful way to succeed with Defender.

It is not common, but it is not unique. check out the rigs of the top players... there are some in the 5Ks that play this rig.

jimboto

 

But you are mk6 in 2K infamy. You should be in low to mid 3k range infamy as mk6 with lvl 40 rares.

I could argue that when I was mk5 defender in nightmare that my big shield, standard shield, bandage, turbo set-up consistently outperformed any set-up using rudder or lube.

 

I was mk5 at 4K you are certainly a big fish in a small pond at 2k in mk6

 

LoL

 

No, you're an enforcer

 

Gear lube and rudder should be made into one item in my opinion. They aren't appealing enough alone