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Can we have equal amount of Fixers in each match on both teams?

Discussion in 'Suggestions & Ideas' started by Napolike1926, 30 Jul 2018.

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  1. BattleRascal

    BattleRascal Well-Known Member

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    After seeing this thread, I've always believed the same thing happens to me. I play WAY more battles with Enemy teams having the lone fixer.
    I don't really complain about it, because with my double-mine speeder setup, my win % in those types of battles is really good.
    The below stats are not out of the ordinary for %'s of battles played, I'm just used to battling fixer teams more often. It does indicate that there is something in the matchmaking algorithm that matches certain ships with/against fixers more often than others.

    So I did a small sampling consisting of all the battles I played last night. Our quest rivalry position was secured, so I was just having fun playing double-mine speeder and had a pretty good night.
    35 Battles Played
    Win / Loss / Tie record for various fixer setups in battle
    Zero Fixer to Zero Fixer: 5-2 (7 battles played)
    Zero Fixer to One Fixer: 11-4 (15 battles played)
    One Fixer to Zero Fixer: 4-1 (5 battles played)
    One Fixer to One Fixer: 0-3-1 (4 battles played)
    One Fixer to Two Fixer: 0-2 (2 battles played)
    Two Fixer to One Fixer: 1-2 (1 battle played)
    Two Fixer to Two Fixer: 1-1 (1 battle played)

    So out of the 35 battles:
    42% of my battles played consisted of the enemy team having a fixer and my team not having one
    14% of my battles my team had the fixer and the enemy team did not.

    Before anyone says, this is too small a sampling to gather facts from. This is just a confirmation from months of observation. Maybe if I sampled my last 1000 battles, the 42% would go down a little bit and the 14% go up a little bit. But my observations has always been that I play FAR more battles against enemy teams with fixers. But I actually like it as a speeder(as you can see the win record above).
     
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  2. SeaNavy

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    Naturally, you play more battles against than with a fixer if you're not a fixer, since you have 55.55555555555...% chance of the fixer being on the other team, although your games we're a little more than expected. But it's not about how many times they're on the other team, it's about if one team having a fixer and the other not having one actually increases chances of winning for the team with the fixer. Statistically, the winrates are about 50% give or take a few percent for each mk. So I don't see what the issue is.
     
  3. Napolike1926

    Napolike1926 Active Member

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    Infact it's sarcastic, how can I hate a person who I don't know? Anyway you just answer sentences where you can take vantage. Try to answer the post with videos ;)
     
  4. Napolike1926

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    Man the issue is in your head if u still don't understand. Stat about 50% is whole players stat. If you take one per one players u will see some players with high % some with low %. Is it a right thing? Is it really hard to fix 0-0; 1-1, etc? No, it isn't. It's hard just because of people like you that have to go against all.
     
  5. Napolike1926

    Napolike1926 Active Member

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    And I showed u a battle where u can't win if there isn't equal number of fixer. Is it right that I have to lose a battle for that reason? a reason so easy to fix.
     
  6. SeaNavy

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    Like you don't?
    That's like saying you should nerf defenders because they're too powerful against fixers. Everyone has strengths and weaknesses. Maybe yours is fixers.
     
  7. SeaNavy

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    You don't know if it's the players or the fixer. If the players were more skilled, you could've won. If you worked together more, you could've won. You can't always just blame one factor and not consider all the other possibilities.
     
  8. Napolike1926

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    Oh thanks my master. So i guess you have seen battle. And you think there is a skill like "go on the mines without get damage" or what? Or maybe you know a "fixer-focus-missile" that oneshot it from everywhere?
     
  9. SeaNavy

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    The fixer and it's team was taking cover behind the giant column thingy in the middle of Subzero, so when you shot, they hid aand just healed up. If your team had actually tried to get then out of hiding by going around the mines and coming to their sides or splitting up to both sides so that they can't hide without being shot at, you could've had a chance.
     
  10. Napolike1926

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    Sure and while they tryed to going around, enemies didn't shot them because it's your special tactic. And all damage we'd done while this going around weren't heal by fixer because it love us. Sure.
     
  11. SeaNavy

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    While they're dealing damage when you're going around, it mean that you can deal damage to them to, because if you're in their line of fire they're in yours.
    And simply kill the fixer first. Not that hard. As a speeder, that should be one of your jobs.
     
  12. Napolike1926

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    If u really have said it after u have seen that battle, you just don't know wtf u r saying. Battle bay is ur game, with words. Leave facts to us.
     
  13. SeaNavy

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    I have seen the replay, but why does it matter how the last battle turned out? With new srategies come new outcomes. A battle where a team charges is going to be different than a bttle where the team hides in the corner.
    Also, what kijnd of facts can you present. Battles don't mean much. I can just find 50 battles where there was a fixer on the other team and lost, and 50 battles we're there was fixer on the other team and won. And from that, I can say it's balanced, accoridng to your previous post about how battles only tell the truth.
     
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    @Napolike1926, stop acting like a squeaker. Having a fixer does NOT improve your chances of winning. Sure, they Heal, but they only have one or two weapons. Fixers are not everything. If you don't have a fixer on your team, deal with it!! I get that you want to be absolutely stupid when you're playing so your fixer has to heal you up, but you just need to get good at the game. I don't like getting no fixer either. But I don't complain. I just go for their fixer and boom, it's like they never had that fixer. I'll giv you some tips.

    • If you DO get a fixer, defend it. Don't be an idiot just to have the satisfaction of being healed.
    • If you don't get a fixer but enemy does, target the fixer! Use the commands to increase the chances of team attacking fixer.
    • Git gud
    I'd be beheaded by the devs ( or AntiSnipe. Or possible caffeine Chris) if I criticized you any further, have a nice day.

    -Kira ( if you know death note, good for you)
     
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  16. BattleRascal

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    No issues here whatsoever. I would guesstimate that my win % as a NON-FIXER team against a team with a fixer is around 60%. Especially when playing double-mine speeder.
    SO I LOVE playing against teams with fixers.
    My example is just to show that some players get far more battles against fixer teams. I'll probably play around 30 to 40 battles again tonight, so I'll try to come back here tomorrow and post my %'s again.
    This issue has been hashed to death about whether a fixer is an advantage or not. To me it all comes down to play style. If the enemy team has a fixer and your team sits back and camp behind rocks firing mortars and snipers, you will lose. The fixer will heal his team faster than you can kill anyone on the enemy team. If the fixer team has ONE guy who freelances and gets killed instantly, then the non-fixer team(playing aggressively) will usually win the battle.
     
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  17. Napolike1926

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    Guys u all are just explaining tutorials, I don't need it. I've posted 2 battles with fixer in other team in same day (1 win, 1 lose. Both extreme top damage). I know how to play, i'm going for nightmare with a full rare equip and just a big torpedo t5 epic that I know how to use (55k damage today). I'm just saying that SOME BATTLES (NOT ALL BATTLES WITH FIXER BECAUSE I THINK FIXER IS OP, NO!!!)..SOME BATTLES like the one i posted and many others your destiny is to lose at 99%. It could be fix just with equal fixers in team, so I could won (or maybe lose anyway) battles like that one. Is it crazy to ask? You really want some battles with write destiny? We already got a matchmaking (really hard to find one good, impossible perfect one) that could be argument of discussion too, because of gearscore not balanced, because of enforcers double tesla shield 8k hp sometimes 2 3 in a team (?!?).. AND FIXERS UNBALANCED. This is easy to fix and for sure it's easier to win a battle vs those enforcers that could fail and not to win battles like the one I posted, without a fixer. That's all.
     
  18. What's Up Player

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    And SOME BATTLES (pretty much the same amount of what you wrote) your destiny is to win at 99%.
     
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  20. TheAntiSnipe

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    For the record, I understand the OP's pain. I've been there myself. 2800+ infamy, really close to NML, and you start fighting people with better gear and, most of the time, MUCH better skill. It's frustrating to have to fight teams with fixers at that time when your team doesn't. It is easy to give up hope.

    What's even easier than that? Complaining about this, repeatedly, knowing that you've been fighting your entire BB career with absolutely random teams, and that fixer is just another boat(a frail one) AND that some battles are unwinnable because potato teams.

    What I want to see is REPLAYS of you playing against these fixers.

    Unless you believe the stats given by the devs are wrong, or insist on being that dude who uses no u as a counter argument, I suggest you help us help you.
     
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