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Buff epics?

Discussion in 'Game Discussion' started by Joey who, 23 Aug 2017.

  1. Joey who

    Joey who Well-Known Member

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    That's the only thing that makes legendaries worth buying. This could make epics worth buying.

    Is an epic worth 3k pearls to you? I don't think so
     
  2. D3X

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    I don't think scaling the bottom end of the T1-T3 portion would be meaningful, that's why Rares are there , since they are more abundant and costs a lot less to level. I made that mistake earlier on by hanging onto Epic Turbo and Epic Nitro, which I only had 1 of. Then after a few months of getting zero duplicates, I decided to go with the rare equivalent. Which I was able to get to T5 max, way higher than the Epic version.

    Epics are for later game, and that means beyond 6 months of playing. I'm currently collecting epics to get 4 or more, and my rares are already close to maxed out. Even if you buff the bottom end stats, it's worthless stats because the only way Epics are even useful is beyond T4 and that's when they compete directly with Legendary items.

    You don't need to buff Epics.

    BTW Don't even say I'm even close to end game, because I'm still running 87% Rares.
     
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  3. Joey who

    Joey who Well-Known Member

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    Well we don't get the sugar storage to get tier 5s until level 44. (Or maybe 40ish if we pearl some). If a level 30 epic did the damage of a lvl 45 rare that'd be a good enough reason for me to work on an epic. But right now they are only end game when you find 4 of them or for P2W players
     
  4. D3X

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    I was able to get some to T5, at level 37. Smart use of Pearls earned from battles and Ad watching on captain levels is far better than RNG Crates.

    A level 31 Epic (T4) does do damage of a level 42-43 Rare(T5) . It's close, but depends on the item. I don't really get your point though, because buffing the bottom end of T1-T3 range would still converge and lessen once they get to the Mid range level if you're not increasing the damage of a max T5. Which makes it meaningless, because a Epic T2-T3 is way weaker than a T4 Rare (Level 31--40).
     
  5. Joey who

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    To help the players with lower level epics. I see no reason to upgrade them at all when you have them rare
     
  6. D3X

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    Then you have it all wrong.
    Rare isn't enough to take you to End-Game. Epics can.
    Sure you can hit Nightmare with Rares ( use me as an example ), but to really get high up in Nightmare you need more Epics and Legendaries that are higher level than MAX rares., which means T4 Epic or T2 Legendaries.

    As I already said, Epics will be what you are aiming to get once you get near my level, ie; already exhausted the Rare options. Legendaries won't even be something you would want as a F2P, P2P player because you can't get them better than a Rare by much.
     
  7. Joey who

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    It wouldn't help get to nightmare league. Will just give us a reason to upgrade them at a lower level. All my epics are just sitting there because rares do much better and are easier to upgrade than a tier 1 or 2 epic. Even started scrapping them
     
  8. D3X

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    Rares aren't better though at high level. Which is why I still don't understand why you're still stuck on and convinced you want to buff Epics at a low level.

    My Epics are sitting in Inventory too, lots of them (see my profile, I have some stashed in my other ships I don't currently use), and saved for a better day when I do get enough duplicates and resources to level them.
     
  9. Joey who

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    Rares are more convenient. They are much easier to level and a lvl 40 does the same as a level 30 epic. So there is no reason to get it there when you can just upgrade rares
     
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    Didn't I just say that?
     
  11. DaveRay35

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    Yep this is the point I'm at.

    Although I love my epic t3 swift torp and I've started holding on to good epics in the vain hope some duplicates might turn up at some point in the future.

    Super post. Will take your experienced opinion on board ✊
     
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  12. WarCream

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    This rant is invalid . Lol epics already have the biggest advantage than rares by having a 4th perk slot if you upgrade it to t4 so just hang in there and keep grinding. You'll get a bunch of epic when you come up to higher infamy(Probably a Lie). That is what the old f2p players are doing like thunder. She got an epic items by clearly grinding it out and time.
     
  13. Joey who

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    Well that's my point. Epics should be more convenient
     
  14. D3X

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    Epic T4 is the turning point, as it opens up the 4th Perk slot that really gives it a leg up on the Rare (and a T1-T2 Legendary) and at level 40 perform better than a T5 Rare.

    So name of the game is, start with a Rare item first and once you have your heart set on a certain config, get 6 of them and combine them to T5. That's basically where I'm at currently and I'm close to getting all 7 Rares to T5.
     
  15. Joey who

    Joey who Well-Known Member

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    Did you read the posts in this thread...
     
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    No it isn't, because Epics are hard to get. Hard to get duplicates, expensive to level. So even if you Buff the epics at the lower end, it's useless because you won't get 4 of them let alone 6 of them without months if not years of playing ( See @Kitterini 's Posts regarding the random crates ) . You're still stuck with a slightly stronger T2 or T3 given your current logic (but still WEAK) but that's useless because you will desire duplicates rather, because you would have gotten at least 4-6 Rares before you get 3 Epics.

    So unless you mean Buff the Epic item drop rate from Crates, then I'm with you with that. But Buffing the stats of lower level T1-T3? Meaningless.
     
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  17. TheRedSpeeder

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    I'm sorry but this is a bit incorrect. I do have blast cannon rare tier 5 lv 45 which deal as much as my t3 epic blast. It will deal same amount of damage at lv 50 as my epic blast will deal at lv 34-35 (when not looking perks at all)
    In other words tier 3 epics are about the same as lv 45 (tier 5) rares, so epic are definately worth to build even to tier 3 as you won't probably get tier 5 rares without over caping on crew traning before you get t4 epics.
     
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  18. Joey who

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    Yea tier 4 is. But until then they just take up space. I'd love to be given a reason to upgrade an epic lower than tier 4 though
     
  19. Joey who

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    Look at the screenshot of blast cannon stats I posted. They are pretty similar at lvl 30 epic & 40 rare
     
  20. TheRedSpeeder

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    Then your pic is incorrect as I do have those both blast cannons in my inventory and I do see the stats of those. Lv 30 epic is equivalent with lv 45 rare. I'm sorry to say but that is the case here (I have all fire perks on both blasties so I do see those stats "without perks")
     

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