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Best Deal Ever

Discussion in 'Game Discussion' started by Ovidmikel, 31 Jan 2018.

  1. EyeOfDoom

    EyeOfDoom Well-Known Member

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    The sceptic in me wonders if we're ever getting 4th copy of our tier 3 epics since Rovio clearly wants players to pay big money for them. I wouldn't be surprised if Rng odds get reduced to a really low percentage to force us to buy deals.
     
  2. Earel

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    It’s all about target marketing))
     
  3. Stelmo

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    There is a rumour going around that the rng has been adjusted to give us items that we don't want, to pry their exorbitant duplicate costs from us.
    I personally doubt that there could be any truth to it, but I've been wrong every time I've defended these fellas scruples so far.
    I wouldn't be surprised either;)
     
  4. Spongeboat

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    I've heard that theory before and I didn't believe it. But now, after seeing what seems like a blatant cash grab, I'm more open minded to that theory.
    I mean, if you're gonna sell stuff, you need to create a market for it. All it takes is few rng adjustment and you're good to go.
     
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  5. Ash KOT

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    No offence, but dont listen to the rumours :)

    The only people who know the algorithm are Rovio, as they control everything.
    Do you think Rovio would put out these rumours that they are fixing the boxes to give crap? Of course not.

    So the only people who can be making up said rumours are random players just guessing what they think is happening with no proof of the claims.
     
  6. Kalbs

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    Your statement just pointed out all the obvious and did not help at all.
     
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  7. Ash KOT

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    State the obvious was exactly what I intended to do :)
    Why are people listening to rumours when its clear that its just made up?
    Statistics and facts I value, rumours not so much.
    I agree the deals are expensive from my point of view, but everyone's perception of expensive is different.
    Some people must be buying the deals for the prices to stay as they are.
    To the guys who have spent thousands of dollars on the game, maybe $100 for an epic they want is reasonable, for me personally, I would pass on it for $10.
     
  8. The Friendly Fixer

    The Friendly Fixer Well-Known Member

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    Can you Tell me Why am I getting 75$ Deals


    On Boxing Day I got that Awesome Xmas Offer 3 Epic Chests for 60$ Few Days Later I Been Getting 75 Offers I was Like how can I Bay Offers Now :? I wish I Get 15$ deals :(
     
  9. Spongeboat

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    I'm not saying that rumor is true anyway, I'm just opening myself to that possibility. A little suspicion won't hurt anyone. ;)
    Though maybe I'm biased because I really despise micro transactions especially the gamble-y ones with random loot boxes. There's a legal battle around loot boxes currently going on, I hope they win. I hope loot boxes and micro transactions die in fire.
     
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  10. Ash KOT

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    To play devils advocate, I am not saying the rumour is false either! I am just stating nobody knows for sure so we are just making wild accusations with no hard facts to back them up!
    I am not a fan of micro transactions either, but they are essential for these F2P type games to survive, and games which generate the most IAPs are competitive multiplayer games, where people pay money to get ahead of the competition.
    Still, I am struggling to see how a single epic weapon can be valued at $100 and it be considered a "deal" but I am probably biased too :p
     
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  11. Spongeboat

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    It's not even exactly a single epic weapon as a standalone usable version. It's just another material you need to level up the weapon you already have. It doesn't add anything to the gameplay, it just raises your weapon few levels and that's it.
     
  12. CaffeinatedChris

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    When discussing matters of "RNG" you have to remember one very important point, and that is this:

    Humans are extraordinarily bad at being random.

    Don't believe me?

    Play a few rounds or a long game of "Man vs Machine" at this URL here.
    http://www.loper-os.org/bad-at-entropy/manmach.html

    Tell me how well you do. ;)
     
  13. Ash KOT

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    I must be good at being random, or the machine is weak bro :D
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  14. Help I Cant Swim

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    I'm sorry, @Ash KOT, but that is the most ASSININE answer I've ever heard.


    THAT IS A HUGE FREAKING PROBLEM. How can you possibly use that statement to tell people to "not listen to the rumors"???


    Yes, it might just be "random players guessing." But it is not ILLOGICAL to think that Rovio would do something like this to make as much money as possible when THEY ARE THE ONLY ONES THAT KNOW WHAT IS ACTUALLY GOING ON.

    PLUS: They have already PROVEN THAT THEY PRESENT THE SPECIAL OFFERS BASED ON WHAT YOU NEED!! So it is not even that far-fetched to consider the possibility of them reducing your chance to get the item you need since they are already manipulating their offer system.

    Add on top of that the only real forum of information or discussion for their game is OWNED AND RUN BY ROVIO. This is like a government owning the media outlets and only putting out exactly what they want the public to know.... *cough North Korea cough*.



    I don't want to start a conspiracy that Rovio is playing Kim Jong-un behind the scenes with Battle Bay. BUT it is perfectly logical and reasonable to suspect a for-profit company doing everything they can to make a profit when there is no way to prove that they are doing it because they are the only ones that can see their RNG algorithm.


    Also to any MVPs or DEVs that would consider deleting my comment.... that would only fuel the fire. If they truly want to squash any conspiracy about RNG tampering, then they will find a way to be more transparent. I mean, FFS, it should be ILLEGAL to have a hidden RNG system anyways. Even if it is not YET ILLEGAL, it is certainly DISHONEST and DECEITFUL to have a hidden RNG system.


    I'll end my rant with a line from a very famous John Mayer song...

    "When they own the information, they can bend it all they want"
     
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  15. Ash KOT

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    Thanks for your detailed post, and I for sure wont be deleting / or modifying your post, I am all for discussion.

    Firstly the asinine comment, I think you misunderstood my comment.
    I was stating that it is illogical to listen to rumours, which have been made with no factual evidence.
    The algorithm is only known by Rovio so its impossible for anybody to state that they have heard rumours of how they force this or rig that etc.
    This is a generic statement which you should apply to all walks of life, not just Battle Bay.

    As for the second comment, Rovio do know and control their game, so are the only people who know the algorithm.
    Nobody else other than those who have been involved with the coding etc can confirm nor deny exactly how it works.
    I am not stating that this is a good thing or a bad thing, but why would you listen to a rumour, that was created by someone with no real knowledge of the algorithm?

    You go on to mention that the rumour is plausible, and I have never said it wasn't.
    It might be true, it might be false, but without any facts behind it we are all just guessing at what might be happening.

    As far as Rovio controlling this forum, this is quite normal for games.
    Activision, Supercell, Zeptolab etc control their forums too, you see this as a negative, but it has positive sides too.

    We as a community can speak directly to the game developers, and all the posts are overlooked by the team to make sure the info is accurate, and Rovio can step in and help people directly in game, this wouldn't be able to happen without Rovio presence here. The devs also do release real information, statistics etc at times which wouldn’t otherwise be possible, and as a community we can even make changes / requests which have the possibility of being approved and implemented in game.

    Personally I like the fact this is an official forum, and am glad we have the Rovio team here.
     
  16. The Friendly Fixer

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  17. Help I Cant Swim

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    @Ash KOT. Feel free to move any comments based on my post to my thread and keep any comments just about the OP in here. Don't want two separate discussions.
     
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  18. TTrain

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    Let me know what you guys think...

    I think the solution or a slight solution to our problem of getting unwated epic and needing epic duplicates is, we all need to start battling with, upgrading, doing personal quests with, etc, items/weapons we don't really want at all, all while we will never use (or at least take a long break) from using anything we truly want!

    Then we could care even less about the offers we get and hopefully it will continue to work the same way it does now, and give us epics, and duplicates that we "don't want" or "don't use," which in reality are the actual weapons/items that we actually want and need! :eek::confused::rolleyes::p:cool:

    And going off of the pattern drawn from the last 4 epics that I've gotten from combining epic pieces, in which I have received 3 effin Ball Park Mortars (which I can confidently say I never use), therefore this idea HAS to work, and we will be rollin in stacks of epic dupes! :cool:

    On the downside, albeit minor, our infamy might take a slight dip down at first, but who know's it could end up being fun, and if all else interesting! But I have faith this has the "potential chance" to work no matter what!!!
    :confused:o_O Or just like the Sex Panther cologne from Anchorman, I believe that this will work every time, 60% of the time! :rolleyes:;)

    Sooooo... Who's down? ;)

    This revolutionary idea comes to you, Straight from the Great...
    ~|}{|~ T-Train ~|}{|~
    ;):D:cool:
     
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  19. Help I Cant Swim

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    I think you have one of the most well edited and formatted responses I've ever seen. :D

    I like the reverse psychology to trick the game too. It might be crazy... so crazy that it just might work.
     
  20. TTrain

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    Hahahah ohhhh that cracked me up!!!! :D:D That response is priceless! What I may love even more is that someone was able to appreciate my ridiculous obsession to my posts being grammatically correct along with my punctuality. Oh and my format. ;) I don't know why, and I hate to admit, I can get so anal and carried away on most of my posts, that a simple response can take me wayyyy too long to write!!! I think I may have a sickness :confused: :rolleyes: But I can't help it! :oops:

    It would to hilarious if if did actually work! I almost want to make a second account to test it out. I think i might just have to to ghits and shiggles o_O:rolleyes:;)
     

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