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Balancing Changes on July 14th

Discussion in 'Announcements' started by Stebbi, 12 Jul 2017.

  1. CheekyDevilGod

    CheekyDevilGod Well-Known Member

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    Look

    Nerf the damn nitros and the overboosts as much as you want but stay from the speed

    That's the only thing that makes speeder tick

    Nerf the damn hp a little bit more and remove all defence if you want but don't you dare say it needs to be slower
     
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  2. CheekyDevilGod

    CheekyDevilGod Well-Known Member

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    Here's a better nerf for mortars

    Increase the range where the mortars are useless in close quarters
     
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  3. Baraba$

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    maybe it is,but how about the upcoming updates?theyre gonna nerf t.bolt then nitro or more hp reduction?the devs killing the speeder ship softly.,many players like to use it coz its cool,now theyre nerfing everything on it and its bad for their business,not a wise move from the devs
     
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  4. Joey who

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    Mortar Bay: Coming soon...

    Once speeders are extinct
     
  5. EyeOfDoom

    EyeOfDoom Well-Known Member

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    Mortar Bay is already here. Around 1500 infamy.
     
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  6. Joey who

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    But now they will be everywhere :D
     
  7. lolawola

    lolawola Active Member

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    agreed. shooter too need a "special" look like us speeders. what ticks me off is, shooter at mk6 is the only ship with the most slot points compared to others. it has a total of 12 points compared the rest with only 11...
     
  8. B2B

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    What's with this "speeders are slow" garbage? This thread addressed upcoming changes to speeder hp while prior changes addressed changes to OB, both of which are minor changes imho. To insinuate that these changes are so drastic that the very essence of the ship - its speed, would be in question and considered 'slow' is ridiculous and the fact that some players truly believe that just shows the level of understanding of what a speeder concept entails. Having your ship move slower than it used to doesn't make it slow; speeders will continue to be the bay's fastest ship, hence the name and its specialty, which makes these silly comments seem like cries at worst and a farce at best.

    Its hp is adequate even after changes, there is no disputing that. I think most of the comments now in regards to the recent changes to speeder stems from what dissatisfied players have become accustomed to vs. their initial interpretation of said ship. I am only 4 months in, but i know with absolute certainty that speeders were never designed to retain as much hp as they do now. And yes, the only factors that these changes are usually based on are maxed skill points (crew talents in this case), and items/gear that work in conjunction with talents to provide additional points to the ship. There's definitely more to it than that, but that's just outlining the basic idea of what it comes down to.

    TL;DR: speeders will continue to perform well, but the hp reduction will force them to be cautious at times they feel the need to scout or flank enemy ships. I expect to see less reckless speeders after these changes hit the bay.
     
  9. CheekyDevilGod

    CheekyDevilGod Well-Known Member

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    Sigh.

    Speeders are not meant to have tons of hp, they are supposed to be fast, I'm sire the current nerf to speeders doesn't do much dmg. And overboost nerf was in the previous update and people already complained enough about it.

    Please refrain from mentioning previous changes in this update. Overboost was a control item that gives a boost for a few seconds, the speed of the ob was not reduced, merely a TWO SECOND increase in cooldown and a TWO SECOND decrease in duration. EFFECT REMAINS THE SAME.

    Base speed of the speeder IS NOT REDUCED. And judging from all the complaints, I'm starting to think the devs are nerfing items just to stop people who spam ships and items for the lulz. And honestly it kinda works so I'm gonna support this.
     
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  10. NAN0NAT3R

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    I had no idea, I guess the nerf was necessary then.
     
  11. ● • ARM¥TR!X F!X€R • ●

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    How to install minecraft on pc?
     
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  12. Shinks

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    You guys will crash the game soon, nerf by nerf.
     
  13. DanielGaming

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    I'm think now the big berths is in the meta right now Becuz every match a least have 1 berta user, the most is 4 berta users.Goddamn it can someone deal with these camping noobs plz, they just sit and shoot their noob's mortars
     
  14. The War Net

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    I don't hate the cannon. Its absolutely awesome. But the fact is that it is currently the most used cannon in the game because of its ability to constantly and consistently critical strike. No other item in the game can do double damage as consistently without the use of a secondary item. i.e. A blast cannon needing fire or a torpedo needing frost. Currently, as it is, the sniper cannon is extremely overpowering as a single slot item when you couple that critical chance along with its base range and projectile speed of 40. No other items can even compare to its ease of use which is why it is completely overused and very unbalanced.
     
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  15. The War Net

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    Read my previous reply. lol.
     
  16. The War Net

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    Also read my post above in regards to why a change is needed. If you disagree, post as to why you believe it should be a single slot item considering its ability to do double damage combined with its range and projectile speed.
     
  17. SiRHoT

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    haha @P0rthos, you made me laugh :)

    Btw, you are now a defender and with these (sorry for bad word) f.cking updates, with speeder, you are not able to stay alive more than 50 % battles which you played !

    After you faced what I said, think about the situation for lower level speeders :)

    I am a MK4 speeder and now it is so hard to stay alive with non fully upgraded yellow - blue items. Maybe one of these 2 updates needed for Mk 6 & MK 7 speeders, but it is ridiculous for below levels of MK5 Speeders.

    As a result, now as a Mk4 speeders, we have very very low hp around 1700-1800, maybe you can increase it up to 2.200 - 2.300 with very good shields. With this option, you will be slow like as a defender and defender which at same level and condition have more than 3.500 - 4.000 hp.

    Another option is, what you said, speed should have a trade off. Ok, now we choose be speedy. So, again as a Mk4 Speeders, I choose turbo instead of shield. In our levels with Mk4 speeders usually you have maximum 1-2 tier epic turbo, even if I have tier 2 rare turbo. Consider that you have tier2 epic turbo. So, your hp is around 1.700 now. So, maybe if you are lucky, you will hit max 2-3 times with a normal cannon to the enemy since your hp won't allow you more.

    So what? If you are a lower level Speeder of MK6, already you lost the fight and you must settle for it. RIP my old but not so good now MK4 speeder..
     
  18. SiRHoT

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    I am a MK4 speeder also and I lost 158 HP totally with tier 3 rare normal shield

    Edit:

    Apparently, now the bandage is very useless for speeders any more, especially below level of Mk6 at least. I think totally it is useless now for all level of speeder..
     
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  19. D3X

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    Took 428 hp off my build. I had 5033hp with a big shield.
    I don't think it'll affect me too much, my recent upgrades were all hp related and in the last week or so I gained about 350 from the upgrades. So now I'm close to where I was before.
     
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  20. ThatOnion

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    So, im a mk4 enforcer and i only having 1930 hp, do you hear me b.tching? No, so suck it up and deal with it
     

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