Best ways to nerf DB ( poll)

Keep in mind, that Enforcers are the only ship that can sacrifice turbo for other blue items. Just saying. :-$

 

NOPE
20 hours old data (from NM league players)

only 100% of shooters and defenders use turbo

 

what's wrong with the forums today? Most threads are about nerfing enforcer.

My ideas to nerf dbl bubbles are:
• Add a frost effect to bubbles: it's similar to flag frost. This effect works when u use another bubble within 5 seconds after the first bubble is destroyed or expired. This works only on the second bubble.
• Add a stun effect to bubbles: it's similar to broken bubble stun. This effect works when u use another bubble within 5 seconds after the first bubble is destroyed or expired. In other words, u will be stunned in ur bubble for 4 seconds.
• Add a penalty effect: The second bubble will be unstable. There should be some gaps in the second bubble which will allow some shots to penetrate the bubble. This works within 5 seconds after the first bubble is destroyed or expired. These gaps will be visible to other players, and they should keep rotating around the ship. u need a well placed shot/lucky shot to penetrate the bubble.
• Add an ability to destroy the bubble partially: Ex: Sniper with 750 dmg against 1700 hp bubble
»»» 750/1700×100≈45%. This should break 45% of the bubble which will give u a window to lead ur shots in the bubble towards that noob.
This works only on the second bubble.

 

Lol, you wrote that massive Nope yet enforcer in your sceenshot has lowest turbo usage out of all ships meaning that it can function fine without a turbo.

Or am I missing something?

 

yes, it has the lowest turbo usage but you are missing one thing
he said:

and that's not true, maybe my "NOPE" is too big but his statement is completely wrong, fixers and even speeders do sacrifice turbo for other blue items


edit: and if even speeders, who are meant to be fastest, can afford to use something else than turbo, why not enfos?

 

u finally wrote something logical.

 

Check my ideas.

 

My ideas are in this post. I didn't copy ur tesla shock idea.
https://forum.battlebay.net/posts/167649/

 

Double bubble is being used EVERYWHERE in higher leagues and it's overpowered. When there's an overpowered item/setup, it needs a small nerf. The probatem is it's hard to nerf double bubble without hurting single bubbles.

Nitro is not overpowered, even double nitro. Sure, it gets you out of the way of torps and mortars, but you can run into a wall or mine. Both are... terrible. Sometimes you even run into another torpedo. You're complaining speeder's been killed a thousand times over? Nitro nerf will literally make speeder unusable.

Nerfing double bubble will make the overpowered setup harder to use ( and require more skill), as opposed to nerfing nitro absolutely killing speeder.

 

Beautiful.

Poop there's no more room for questions

 

Honestly, just reduce them to 1 per ship. Then you don't get these issues with nerfs to high level bubbles ruining low level ones. You just only get one per ship.

 

How about this?

Breaking a second Tesla Shield in 10 seconds stuns the user for additional 3 seconds (6 in total) and frosts him for 30%.

 

NO
limit all items or none, nothing between

 

no (lol, is this refering to my profile picture?) but if devs limited tesshield to only one per ship, then there would be requests from players to limit /fire bomb/torps/mortars/nitro/flare/cannons/mine etc.
why should be only one item limited to only 1 per ship, if it's not the only item that is problematic when used in pair?

 

So destroy the lower level bubbles to nerf the higher level bubbles instead of just capping at one per ship. Ooookay.

 

maybe just tweak the high level bubbles? or buff counters? or create new counters by adding new, NORMAL (not item killing) tesshield mechanincs?

 

The should simply say that limiting nitro would kill speeders.
Just let the devs tell the players that there are some items that are CRITICAL for a ship to have multiple of, and that two bubbles was not one of them.

 

ok, then what should mk6 and mk7 enfos do with the slot? frost launcher is useless when compared with 1-point yellow items, so enfos would be forced to waste one slot point
btw have you ever tried enforcer?
I played double nitro+OB speeder before, it's not necessary to use second nitro, you will do well with tesla bolt/frost blaster (kinda good)/tesshield (at higher mk)
so removing second nitro would not kill speeder, it would affect YOU and that's the problem