Poll - Would you rather have standardized rewards for events like CTF?

I agree that the rewards should be more equalized among the teams, but it should still be different based on contribution.

 

Not sure if I agree with flat standardization. Maybe a more quantifiable distribution system with individual bonus coins.

Flat 5 coins for team win.
+1 coin for flag carry/assist (max +2)
+1 coin for capture/+1 coin for holding flag in capture zone 5+ seconds (max +2)
+1 coin for flag return (max +2)
+1 coin for abv average heal+damage
+1 coin for dbl average heal+damage
+1 coin for killing enemy flag carry (max +2)

Flat 0 coins for team loss.
+1 coin for flag carry/assist (max +2)
+1 coin for capture/+1 coin for holding flag in capture zone 5+ seconds (max +2)
+1 coin for flag return (max +2)
+1 coin for abv average heal+damage
+1 coin for dbl average heal+damage
+1 coin for killing enemy flag carry (max +2)

Average heal+damage is Σ of combined heals+damage for all players / 10. Includes band-aids, duct tape, burns, etc... All damage/healing accounted for.

Coin distribution modifications:
Burn/frost bonuses are attributed: half bonus to player who set fire, half bonus to player who scored damage
Heals to flag carrying teammate count for 1.5x for coin counting.
Damage to flag carrying opponent count for 1.5x for coin counting.

SOS edit. Please count damage vs tesla shields!!!

 

Couldn't agree more, now its just a massive speeder fest. But I do notice more contribution coins for players who attack flag carriers, regardless of whether you can get back the flag, at least that's a step in the right direction.

 

I was thinking of that while writing. That would certainly happen with fleeted ships. I don't think defenders/shooters can willingly drop the flag without dying.

Anecdotally, I think there seems to be some element of the +coins for flag carry / assist / capture / hold flag on capture point already in action based on my observations from last weekends event. I got a 9 coin reward for a team loss where I picked up the flag and held it on capture point for a long time.

Maybe add penalty points...
-1 coin for dying (max -1)

 

I think @Help I Cant Swim is too simplified, and @SlayerofSergeants is too complex. How about this?

Did you play? Yes = +2 coins. Floater = +0
Did you win? Yes = +4 coins, No = +0
Did you touch the flag? (carry or return) Yes = +2, No = +0
Rank Damage+heal contribution - Top 2 on either team +2, 3rd and 4th +1, 5th gets +0.

So winning team is max 10, min 6 (assuming not a floater).
Losing team is max 6, min 2 (assuming not a floater).

Seems easy to understand, no one is favored over others. Winning is most important. Defenders and carriers can touch the flag. Coins are still distributed by how well you contributed.

 

Maybe the system above defines a scoring system. Teams are awarded coins based on individual performance, scores awarded as above. Ties are broken based on some calc based on amount of time carrying flag, actual amount of healing+damage (bonus to enemy carry still applied). Individual performance is ranked 1-5 for team members.

Winning team players get coins:
Rank 1 gets 10 coins
Rank 2 gets 9 coins
.
Rank 5 gets 6 coins

Losing team players get coins:
Rank 1 gets 5 coins
.
Rank 5 gets 1 coin

For either team, floater gets 0 coins by default.

*Side note... I deeply enjoyed last weekend's scoring. Many lost matches resulted in 7 or 8 coins. There were even several matches I lost but still got more coins than any player on opposing team.

 

I do recall one of the cap/kill events awhile ago awarded points towards legendary perk based only on winning/losing. I remember being exceptionally frustrated about that event because progress was limited to the competency of your team. That's why I think there should be some points for winning as team as well as some measure of individual reward element.

 

I created a thread (https://forum.battlebay.net/threads/event-rewards.21187/) for the same reason. Think of the average coins rewarded per battle is about 60-65. Winning team get 8-10 coins and losing team get 2-5 coins depend on contributions. CTF is a team battle so everyone contributes in some form in a win. You will have battles where you do well and don’t. In a long run, win based system will always better as it is less likely to play the system there. People keep complaining about bad teammates but how often do you play bad yourself.

 

The current coin distribution sucks, anything is better. So yes, I'm in favor.

 

Yup. It wasn’t the win based that was rough, it I was the amount of wins required. The event was changing from 4 days to 3 with the same requirements. The coins system is good but should have more separations between the winning team and losing team. This will make people work for the win more than their selfish rewards.

 

Good thread. Good thoughts and suggestions all around.

 

I am so done healing the flag carrier from start to finish and consistently getting 5-6 coins while he gets 10. The reward system has no sense of fairness. Fix it, Rovio. I don't care how.

I've disable my VIP because I lost all faith in the devs ever addressing the long standing issue of fixers getting screwed on rewards and I won't support this ship type discrimination any longer. It's unfair and unfun.

 

I agree with this thread. Speeders hold a very important role in these matches, carrying the flag. The reality is they cannot be successful without defense and escorts... so consistently rewarding them with the most coins is sort of insulting to everyone else. I had a match where I killed two flag carriers and returned the flag once (a teammate jumped on the second), but we lost and I got 4 coins while the Speeder got 7 or 8. Did that Speeder contribute 2x more for our team than I did? Obviously not, or it would have been waiting at our base when I returned the flag....twice.

 

The next event probably isn't going to be CTF again if that helps
I've already given up fixer for events, I always play another boat in event now.

 

I don't like that it feels like a race to the flag. If I don't make it there first, then I take out the enemy flag carrier to return our flag -- which usually gives me 7 coins to the carrier's 10. I do feel like taking out the enemy flag carrier is a lot more difficult than taking a leisurely stroll via backroads on route to your own flag.

HOWEVER -- getting to 900 coins takes a ton of games -- and the absolute worst games are those where the other team has 4 ships sitting on their flag playing defense the entire match. They drag out the match for 4 minutes and it often ends in a draw (and fewer coins).

If rewards were more even, it would encourage more people to play defense - since it's easier to stack up damage and kills on enemy speeders making a mad dash for the flag. Which, in turn, would make games longer (and less interesting imo). More importantly, it would make farming coins much slower. Even the quick 40 second losses pay 4-5 coins (i.e., more coins per minute than a 10 coin 4-minute match).

SN - I have noticed fixers getting less coins but I feel like they'd die of shock if they were properly rewarded for once .. so Rovio is just lookin' out for your well-being.