Leaving the game

I agree 100%, for those who have been playing mobile games for awhile know how in depth this game is. People want games to be perfect right away and have all the goodies quickly that's not possible when your dealing with a game like this. Updating this style game takes unthinkable hours of coding to make everything run the way it's supposed to. The updates will come

 

Actually someone posted that the other day and theyre makin millions. So yea. Throwin some of us a little bigger of a bone shouldnt be an issue.

 

I answer as F2P player. You are absolutely right the game companies need money if they want to publish any games. The earning system is different in different games and that's fine. Maybe you weren't talking to players like me because I don't whine about collecting money. Of course they need money when creating the games is their job.

Why don't I pay, then? Well, I am an old school gamer and been playing lot of games and had lots of different consoles and computers (since C64 and NES), tried many online games and past few years also some mobile games. I don't usually even like F2P games but Clash Royale and Battle Bay have been good ones and I've spent some months to play both of them. The mobile games are different from the other games I have played because with Playstation or XboX you need to buy a game, start playing and the game offers whatever it has to offer (and it's nice! You pay, you get a game and the developers get their money. Sweet and simple!). When you play Battle Bay, you can play without paying and consider if you want to pay or not. I think I need to know what does the game offer if I pay something. If I pay 10 euros, I get nothing. If I pay 20 euros, I get nothing. Even if I pay 100 euros (and that's quite much for one game), I get maybe two epic items but they might be something I never use. So, how much should I pay to get something useful? 1000 euros? 2000? Even if I paid 2k€, there would be players who pay more and get better items. It means it's not about playing anymore, it's a paying contest. For me it is ok to pay 50 euros or for example 10 euros a month for a good game, but if the game doesn't offer anything more for that 50 euros, it's waste of money.

I know this is how mobile games work but for me it looks a bit strange. Usually in business they think it's better to get 10 euros from 1000 people than 1000 euros from 10 people (because it's more likely to lose 2 out of 10 than 200 out of 1000). The mobile game developers seems to think different and try to take a lot of money from some players instead of taking some money from larger amount of players. I believe that's also the main reason only 5% of players pay something. They see they should pay too much to get any advantage and therefore they decide to pay nothing. At the moment everyone sees in the Battle Bay you can get superior items if you pay more than an average player can, and if you pay only 50 or 100 euros, it will take years to get items some players get just by paying a lot. The legendary items are also so strong that paying against them doesn't feel fair. Battle Bay is not balanced at the moment.

I am sorry to see D3X leaving. My infamy is not high enough yet so I've faced you only some times at the bay but I still feel sorry. We don't have so much nightmare league players so it's sad if any of them quits. Anyway, I said a lot about the game but I am not leaving. I just don't want to pay anything before I feel I get something. I play as long as it's fun and try to reach as high as I can with my rare items. If the limit is lover than nightmare league, then shall it be. And I also keep watching the ads, not because i can offer something to company by doing it but because I get bigger rewards.

Even it's sad to see people leaving, let's have fun and see you at the bay!

 

@JJf I get what you're saying, but your argument is flawed. Anything you buy is an advantage, not only something that results in a useful epic. Even if you buy a small bit of pearls and buy a single rare box, it's an advantage. You get a rare item and an epic piece that people who don't spend that money don't get. I have VIP, and I can tell you, this is also definitely an advantage over those who don't have VIP. So your "doesn't offer anything more" isn't really true. The more you spend, the more you get.

And about the prices, and the 10 people vs 1000 people: research has been done about this, and I can only assume that Rovio knows exactly at which price point the "normal" spenders and whales combined result in the most income.

 

I agree with everything you wrote down.
This game sadly is losing lots of players already due to these things that you wrote, when i started the game, i started with 8 friends, they were paying hardcore in game.
My first and lost account was at 29 captain level, my friends motivated me to start again, ( it was a nightmare ) but i lost interes in the journey, i get up to 30 ( only for that mk5 speeder )
But i lost interest and i already have almost 2 week's without playing ^_^ . And the "interesting" thing is that even all my friends that i started the game with them, they quit too.
It's hard, really hard for us who do NOT pay, I can NOT overcome that fire power \ high level captain\ mk that my "enemy" have..
I remember well back then when i was at 28 captain level with mk4 Defender, i was at 2400 something inf, and in enemy team were 2x mk6 shooter (teamed up) with every single weapon legendary ...
They were manipulated the match.. obviously.. when 2 ships with loadout like that concentrate fire on the same 1 ship, you can already give up, nothing you can do.
Anyway, sad that players like you are leaving, but still be POSITIVE , have a great one legend ^_^ .

 

Yes, without the whales, there would not be any mobile gaming companies. What is point to run a business that doesn't make any money? There is one thing the DEVs could do that would make myself and probably others spend more money on the game, and that is to the the daily deals more worthwhile. I can't imagine anyone spending $11 for a few dozen epic parts and 800 pearls. The big spenders are going for the 14,000 pearls chest, they aren't buying the daily deals. The daily "deal" should be something like 300 pearls and 500 epic parts for $1.99, or 300 pearls and 1000 rare parts. I believe at this price point, they would have significantly more people spending on the game, and somewhat reduce the reliance on the "whales" for income. Make these deals too good to pass up.

 

Exactly, I'd like that 4 X value deal to be weekly deal with different items instead of just one time deal. I know I'd buy some for the dupes.

 

There is a 14k daily deal. I would buy the daily deal more often if they had better incentive though. I need parts real bad and 200 epic parts is meh at this point. Maybe they'll have holiday sales sometime.

 

Is it just me or do the devs never have replays in these type of threads? That tells me they don't care about our ideas

 

Dex. It has been a pleasure to be guild mates. May the road rise to meet you and the wind forever be in your hair. We were warriors.

 

I have considered you to be one of the greatest speeders of all time and it has been great time with you on the forums. I hope you stay in touch through forums peace

 

This is what happens when the players expectations and wishes are not listened from the devs... you are not the only one leaving this game... many asked for a guildsVsguilds battle, or the possibility to play with 5 not casual friends (and not just 2 fleet ((pathetic)) ) or new shop or matchmaking balanced systems or fix an almost impossible weapon upgrade system; and there are no excuses for devs on vacation cose the summer is since 2 months ago and all these problems are since 5-6 months ago; and im quite sure with the next update the problems will be not solved cose they are just interested in money and if many not payng players are leaving is not a problem for the devs. It is the sad side of this kind of game. I play this one since the Beta, i am a very active player, i have seen many things not working, i had a ban for a not right reason too, just cose of a wrong battle matchmaking system, i helped some players who were sinking theyr infamy cose with the new top-infamy-point- block they were oblyed to play against stronger opponents just cose they fleeted up with stronger guild friends and being promoted in stronger leagues and then oblyed to play alone against too strong opponents players....i could tell about thousands things linke that not good working in this game, and it is not right cose the devs should see these things by themselves... and in the meantime the small players become bigger and stronger... and they arrive to the point they are no more able to upgrade nothing of theyr ship and they cant play just for fun with another lower rank ships cose they have to create a second account if they want do that etc.....
Too many obbligations in this game, the players are oblyed to play with casual friends team, are oblyed to use the main stronger ship in the main account (or risk of segnalation and bann for making loose theyr team), they are oblyed to not buy as many weapons as they want of the same type and rarity in the shop, .....
I could go on for hours....
I am an active player, i think this game is ok, and now is no more a "new game", it can be a drug for me and many other players, but needs some mooooore love from the devs since many months ago...hope they can give it ....

 

After some consideration from the Devs as I was informed, I will wait til next update before quitting (if I do).
Thanks everyone for all your support.

 

We will all miss a nice person like u D3X, posting on the forums and managing the discord channel, , its hard imaging u gone. Goodbye D3X. Good luck finding fun in your next game.

 

Good to hear..don't let the door hit you on the arse on the way back in
Joking aside..I don't know you personally and I'm nowhere near close enough to have fleeted with you..I only know you from your comments and posts which are constructive and helpful I've found.
I guess it must get frustrating for you..similar to mk2 going against mk4
Was just wondering how many games a day you play?..some say they play 100 or so a day!..let's say 4 minutes per game..that's over 7 hours a day!
That's when playing turns into a job with no paycheck IMO.
Games are for enjoyment(yes it can be frustrating at times)..but if you're playing 100 games a day..then you WILL get burned out.
Anyways..lets see what the next update brings to freshen things up.
(Keep) happy battling