Great Job Devs

https://replay.battlebay.net/CRYCYDHH#WXVMLXZY



Such a balanced boat enforcers are. Please give me two more epic Tesla shields so I can fully join this atrocity. Then after everyone plays this boat maybe the game will balance itself since noone seems to want to address the problem!!!!!

Turkett

 

Use ur dbl op grenades.

 

I watched the replay.

Currently, shooter is the most used ship in NML.
There are approximately 2k nightmare players, so there are:
• 790 shooters
• 420 enforcers
• 324 speeders
• 296 fixers
• 172 defenders
However, I believe that in the last season 60%+ of players above 4800 were yellow users. (80%+ in top 50 were yellows users).

I rarely see a defender in Top50 (Except Grand_Paladin).
In the past, devs nerfed explosive cannon which was a direct nerf to defenders. Now, most defenders use three one slot points weapons (like u or defenders who use flare+dbl blast).
In other words, most defenders don't use all red slots which is wired. There's no useful two slot points weapon for defenders. Sometimes, this percentage drops to 3% in nightmare league. (Only 60 ppl are using defender in NML)
Everyone who is dropping infamy jumps in his enforcer to gain it back.
I was trying to drop infamy in the last season using an enforcer (which isn't my main ship/without retraining my crews). I wasn't able to drop infamy, because even with 1/2 my power I was able to destroy enemies. (I was using this setup https://replay.battlebay.net/VXHPBPZG#XZGDKCKL)
Enforcer should be nerfed (or at least dbl bubbles should be nerfed).
We expect a nerf to blast / Buff to explosive cannon soon.
Nerf bc = nerf enforcer / Buff ec = buff defender


• WarHawk •

 

Interesting proposition. But shooters could also drop a 2-point weapon in favor of replacing another with the 3-point weapon. We'll see.

Given the deafening silence, I doubt the developers are on board with any of the complaints on this thread.

 

Even when i have just got my BC to T5 recently, it really need a nerf, there is no way it can be better than a 2 slots weapon (EC) with short reload time, faster bullet... 30% damage off seem reasonable to me.

 

I got an easy solution for the defender, give them 1 green slot to fix themselves, solved. Reduce BC damage, reduce SC crittical damage, done.

 

Give us the duct tape!

 

yup then defender should rise to around 15% usage rate which is better than 8%

 

Duct tape can be countered with flare and or stun. I have met a 3 duct tape fixer today, with all them tapes and nitro the fixer still die easily. If defender had duct tape, they can throw away all those bandage and focusing on HP only. If you still find it abit OP, im sure dev can do a trick so a duct tape can only heal 70% or 50% on a defender.

 

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See, duct tapes do you no good... you know what we need??

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Now you can saw this boat in half!
Unstoppable

 

I assume you play one of the yellow abominations.
So you see nothing unfair about the matching or the ships and items? Well then i curse you with every match from now on to have @YSL and weeze on their enforcers and see how you like those fair boats then my friend!!. Sad that enforcers know how op that boat is and yet the devs just let it run unabated. Very poor designing and balancing imo!



Turkett

 

But look at Top ten and see how many yellows are there every season. One or two reds but truth be known they used a yellow to get there then changed to red. If there was balance, there would be a more even dispersal of ship types thoughout the top 50. Just a percentage of users of a certain ship doesn't express how overpowered a ship is.




Turkett

 

Solution:
All weapons shouldn't have the same effect on all ships.

Let's focus on red items.
My point is: Your ship should affect your weapons range/cooldown/duration (I excluded dmg).

In other words, some weapons aren't so popular on a specific ship. Ex: Mine or Napalm on a speeder.
You should get 10% extra Mine/Napalm duration if you're using a speeder to make these items more popular on a speeder without buffing/nerfing the item in general.
Similarly, defenders should get –5% cooldown or +5% range on some weapons (Ex: explosive cannon).

Just make a list of most used weapons per ship ( bb-stats.com), then adjust weapons for each ship.

I know that we will see more ppl running weird setups, but this will make the game great again. Im too tired of ppl who copy other ppl setups. (Ex: Enforcer)
Flare, Blast cannon, mine, overboost, bubbles, big shield, and turbo or bandage
This is what u have in mind now. Right?
I want to see enforcers running fire bomb or napalm. (Like PeterKing today)
This won't nerf/buff any weapon. We are just adjusting weapons on ships to make weapons equally appealing. I want to see new setups.
Hope that my point of view is clear...

 

Check my post again. I clearly mentioned that these numbers are in all NML.

I totally agree that 80%+ of Top50 players are yellow users. (There are some ppl in the bay who are mainly a shooter like me and Silver. im 100% a shooter, and I was in Top10 last season).
We should see more balanced percentages in Top50, since it's dominated by yellows and greens now.

 

I see you'e point but there is a reason it was designed the way it is. Every ship has an advantage and a disadvantage. Shooter sacrifices utilities for damage potential, defender sacrifices damage for health, speeder sacrifices damage and a little health for speed and so on. Thus creates balance in a match while allowing players to use a ship that benefits their playstyle. What you'e suggesting would level the playing field damage wise and would make certain setups more powerful. Take your defender example, if I ran an EC with buffed stats I could quickly dispatch ships with less health while they can't put a dent in my increased hp.