Manipulating Gear Score in Deathmatch

Hello All,

I don't know if this topic has been discussed here already. But in the in-game forums people are talking about people who manipulate the Gear Score in the Deathmatch 5 vs 5 or 3 vs 3.

Their main ship is a mk5 or mk6, but they take their mk2 or mk3 Defender or Enforcer, which gives a lower Gear Score, fit some weak equipment in the blue slots and then the red shots they fill with T5 epic or even legendary weapons. So, the Gear Score is still much lower, but the weapons so much stronger than the other players.

So, you don't stand a chance. I have come across people like that too. He or she killed us all, the other Unfriends were there more or less for show. It was impossible to win.

Why do people always want to cheat or short cuts in games? Just play at your own level!

Regards,
Flint

 

#GET ON THEIR OWN LEVEL

 

Okay, your own level is debatable, but you get the idea .

 

Yep.

 

This needs to be fixed.. it's ruining what could be amazing events...

 

If they are using lower MKs with weaker weapons, i don't see how this would be cheating if the matchmaking is working properly. It's not seal clubbing if everyone is on a level playing field. Sure experience and skill make it easier for them to win, but that's not cheating.

Matchmaking should be focusing on weapon strength and taking that into account.

 

Hey there, could you please use some other word in your posts because "cheating" means something that is against the rules but playing with low gear score ship does not break any rules.

I find that specific part of your post hard to believe because only in the first page of General Discussion you can see like 8 (!!!) threads about this same topic.

Secondly, it's funny how you changed your mind in less than a month. Let me remind you about this thread you created last month Here I have a quote from you:

Let me repeat that: at the end you said "So, needless to say: we need matchmaking on Gear Score!".

 

i believe people like the gs matchmaking are the ones who benifit from it. check my post, they found a way to avoid the punishment and rape mk1 to 3 like theres no tomorrow. https://forum.battlebay.net/threads/guide-for-developers-how-to-exploit-event-matchmaking.19827/

 

Doesn't surprise me that maurauder is defending this, because his own guildmates are some of the worst offenders. Mk6 defenders using ALL lvl10 uncommon items including an uncommon flare and then using their 2 lvl 50 rare and epic explosive cannons with all epic fire damage perks...this gives them a 9-10k HP defender. That does 2500+ per hit . Against players that have a MAXIMUM gear score using their BEST gear, equal to these 'gear score tankers' *But that's not exploiting the gear score system at aaaalllll* (*enter sarcastic tone here)

 

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Thats the problem. They're NOT using weaker weapons, just weaker everything else

 

True, if they use a mk2 with uncommon weapons, I don't see a problem. But if you use a mk2 with legendaries and low gear score blue stuff, then the overall Gear Score is lower. So, this person will fight much weaker opponents.

 

I do think it is a good idea to use Gear Score and NO I have not changed my mind, but like I said (which you apperantly did not read) is that they lower the Gear Score, by using a low mk ship and low gear blue stuff. So, the Gear Score matchmaking is manipulated that way and that is wrong.

Always people are looking for an easy match, always trying to fool the system. That has nothing to do with the system, but with the people trying to abuse it!

 

I don't complain about Deathmatch, only about people who trying to take short cuts to win, that is all! I like Deathmatch and I think it is great to battle with and against people with the same Gear Score, but not with or against someone manipulating the system.

A legendary or T5 Epic blast cannon full of crit perks, makes up big time for a 'lower level' turbo. Especially in those small maps.

 

well they are not galss cannons because newb equit with good perks and week weapons emd up high gs and small power. gs tankers has talent and higher weapons ands up same gs but tripple or 5x the damage output with same health. also newbs missed shots.

 

But if you haven't changed your mind, how could Gear Score possibly be used in normal matchmaking if it can be "manipulated" so easily? And what is considered "manipulation" in the first place?

This was how events were introduced to us in the patch notes - now, are you saying it's wrong to try out less used lower level ships?

But let's get back to this "manipulation" topic. Here, I'll be honest with you and I show you the mk4 defender setup I used for event and my normal setup:

At first sight you might think my defender setup was clearly "manipulated", right? But look again: I filled all slots* with the best items I possibly could. In blue slots I used my two best shields AND my best turbo, all with full perks. Yes, I didn't use my bandage but that wasn't to lower my gear score - I just think bandage doesn't help a lot in tdm because I expect to die at least two times anyway, so extra HP is more helpful. *Sometimes I left out the lvl 1 epic shield tho, because it only added some 300-400 hp which wasn't really worth the gear score of 167. So maybe that's a little bit of "manipulation" if you like to call it that way. But in my opinion that's just the way to weigh the pros and cons properly. No big deal in both cases - like I said, shield alone is 167 gear score and 300-400 hp.

So isn't that exactly what devs asked us to do; trying out a ship I haven't mastered. Trust me when I say this, I wasn't overpowered in almost any of my matches, literally all the enemies had weapons just like mine, if not even stronger. So I went through my battle log and counted my win ratio with this defender setup: 40 wins and 24 losses, win ratio 62,5 %. Clearly my results were slightly better than average but still far from being seriously overpowered.

Edit: I would like to add that this event mode with half cooldown makes it impossible to play efficiently with my normal 5 weapon shooter (too many weapons for short cooldowns). So I had to search some alternatives and found this defender. I completed the first tdm event with my normal shooter setup because there it worked just fine.

 

I will explain why it isn't cheating, and why the devs might not fix it in a few words.

@Dmg don . MK2 defender. Legendary ex cannon.

 

Thanks for your elobarate reply. You are right and it is good to use new ships and I don't say everybody is trying manipulate the system, but there are people which do. There are a group of people which do about everything to fool the system. The same people who start new guilds, use mk1 with all legendary in normal battles (they did not evolve any of their ships and stayed at low Infamy), so they win the rivalry fairly easy, because they got matched up with all newbies with common and uncommon and blew everyone away.

Most people are honest, but trust me, a certain group is looking for mazes in the law as we say in the Netherlands, or trying to find a loophole in English.

 

I have loopholed so many times.

I was walking around and someone told me to sit down, si I got in a rolling chair and went around while sitting on the chair