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Napalm + Burning Combo

Discussion in 'Suggestions & Ideas' started by PastelPiku, 24 Mar 2018.

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How much bonus damage should stacking to two do? (% of burn bonus)

  1. 100% (current, after bugfix)

    4 vote(s)
    17.4%
  2. 125%

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  3. 150%

    11 vote(s)
    47.8%
  4. 175%

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  5. 200% (before bugfix)

    8 vote(s)
    34.8%
  1. PastelPiku

    PastelPiku Well-Known Member

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    Alright, so this combo was actually a bug and we were all aware of this (I hope) but generally people seemed to think it was pretty cool. I don't want to hear complaining about its removal, I just want to leave a poll here to see what everyone thinks.

    Thank you.
     
  2. PastelPiku

    PastelPiku Well-Known Member

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    Stacking the* two, typo lol
     
  3. StormDevastator

    StormDevastator New Member

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    This is something I would want the devs to add back to the game, but maybe somewhat nerfed. That 150% damage seems like a good way of bringing it back.
     
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  4. StormDevastator

    StormDevastator New Member

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    But what if multiple burn items deal increasing damage? Say 2 burn items do 135% , 3 does 160%, 4 does 175% fire damage (additional to normal damage)


    Wouldn't this be a great was of bringing back the napalm flare combo, but as a general burn stack it would bring in more advantages for fire users that deal damage over time
     
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  5. PastelPiku

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    It's a cool idea, but 2 things would have to happen:
    • 100% -> 135% -> 160% -> 175% is a pretty steep rise. I think something like this is better:
      • 100% -> 120% -> 135% -> 145% -> capping at 150% (each stack is 5% less than the last)
    • Nerf base damage boost from fire. If it was reduced by about 10%, a second burn debuff stack would already negate the nerf.
    Now, here's a more wild idea to add to this, but if the boost from napalm was dependent on the distance from the center (25% of current at the edge, 150% in the center) that'd be awesome.
     
  6. Help I Cant Swim

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    I voted for 150% because it seems like a good compromise between the two. But I was not in favor of the “nerf” (bug fix) for the napalm double bonus. If you have the ability to put an enemy in napalm and on fire and then shoot them with a cannon, that should be rewarded. And they should be punished greatly for sitting in a pool of fire.
     
  7. PastelPiku

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    So far 11/12 people want some kind of bonus from stacking the two. I hope the devs will graciously make a compromise.
     
  8. Help I Cant Swim

    Help I Cant Swim MVP

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    This is close to the hardest combo to pull off and needs to be rewarded as such. (Only harder is frost torp or mortar, but those are broken, so I don’t really count them).
     
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    Question is, should there be combo damage in the game?
    If so, should it be permanent? Or maybe more interesting to have it like a weekly event combo?
    Until we have this feature any accidental combos should not exist.
     
  10. PastelPiku

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    True, it was left there unintentionally, the poll is to find out how many players would like to see it as a feature, not a bug. The difference is that you can balance a feature.
     
  11. Miku Da Yo 39

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    Sitting in napalm and being on fire already is already stacking the damage. Fire DOT still stacks so they are taking hundreds of dmg every second. They also still take bonus cannon dmg. They really don't need to provide stacking here because it allows for some of the most insane and game breaking numbers to be put out. At my level, 4-5k before the patch I was getting close to 3k non crit. If I maxed my weapons perks and crew I would be close to 3.5-4k non crit. This is ridiculous. Everything is fine as is.
     
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    I don't use napalm. Kinda like mine- you have to be stupid to run into it
     
  13. PastelPiku

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    Which is what makes the bonus damage even more punishing. If you're on fire, you should especially not rush through napalm.
     
  14. PastelPiku

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    I feel where you're coming from, but understand that nobody in their right mind just sits in a pool of napalm. You can easily pull more dps just by using another cannon. The only reason this combo was cool was for the extra burst damage and crowd control it left behind. I didn't even vote for 200% myself, I voted for 150%, and I'd even settle for 125%. It was a fun combo to use.
     
  15. StormDevastator

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    True any improvement over standard damage would be nice, I'd actually like stacked damages in the game. Say double Frost for torps/mortars would also be fun. (Deadly as well xD)
     
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