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Too Much Fire!!!!!!

Discussion in 'Game Discussion' started by Ancient FrogMan, 21 Feb 2018.

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Is the flares heal reduction over powered?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. Ancient FrogMan

    Ancient FrogMan Member

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    Recently I reached nightmare and I had to work my tail end off to do it as I’m very underpowered for it as of right now. As soon as I hit nightmare I notice that everyone was using firebombs or flares and I don’t mind the fire as much as how the flare gun reduces the healing by 30%....... is this some sort of cruel joke to fixers as it takes me 13 seconds to heal about 1500-1700 damage yet a firebomb and a flare do more than that in a shorter amount of time and the worst part is IT BOOSTS DAMAGE TAKEN!!!!! You have 4 of those perks on and you get a bonus of 48%...... and you add on the 30% reduction to the healing power. And since blast cannons and explosive cannons do so much damage it makes healing impossible because I saw greys latest video and he was using a TIER 5 LEGENDARY bolt and it healed for 1900 a shot. I was asking around and found that a TIER 5 EPIC explosive cannon has 824 damage. So a person flares someone for 50 a second for 16 seconds and then uses an explosive cannon and does 1220 damage and then you add on the 800 for the flare for a grand total of 2020 damage. Well you bolt during the flare and normally hit for 1900 only hits for 1330! Am I crazy or should a TIER 5 LEGENDARY which are almost immpossible to get with our spending some absurd amount of money to get only doing 65% of the explosive cannon and flare gun combo.... it just barely beats out the damage the explosive cannon does by its self and then you add on the flare damage and since it lasts a while you can easily switch to another gun and kill them. See my point is why in the world does flare for the 30% reduction to heal items! Like getting a TIER 5 LEGENDARY should be able to neutralize a fire combo not do 65% of it, saying I got a T4 Epic in 2 weeks and I have been playing this game since last May and have yet to get a legendary. Why is this a thing!!! I love what you devs did making legendaries more accessible for the free to play players but you screwed the fixers who already are under intense pressure as some players make it their goal to kill the fixer first and saying in we get flare and have to heal ourselves well.... I’d rather set the game down and go get ice cream when I’m flared and speeders are chasing me. I wouldn’t mind maybe a 10% reduction but 30% is a bit excessive. Please let me know what you think as this flare crisis has taken me from 4024 to 3400 and I’m still dropping!
     
  2. Gnu

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    Healing reductions even stack! It's busted for all healing items! Fixers and other ship with bandages are doomed
     
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  3. Miku Da Yo 39

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    The devs said in a thread by Jennyfur that the healing reduction by flare and the fact that it stacks is working as intended. Everybody should abuse the f out of flare by running multiple so that fixers become obsolete. If we all make it a big deal and the new meta it will get nerfed. Otherwise let's keep abusing it
     
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  4. Gnu

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    Doesn't that affect your selfish fixer set up? lol
     
  5. Miku Da Yo 39

    Miku Da Yo 39 Well-Known Member

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    What do you mean, if I don't run flares, how am I suppose to abuse fixers and kill them. Don't you love it when fixers bolts heal only 500 and pulses tick for 10. Makes me laugh hahahahahahah
     
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  6. envylife

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    Fire items do seem to be OP. I recently got burned up by a single flare shot for 4500 HP which was everything I had! I routinely get fire bombed for 2k... stack them and you're SOL. The closest I can come to that level damage is a big torp and those are much tougher to land.
     
  7. Gnu

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    No, i meant you as a fixer. You use triple tape and fire reduction ruins ur healing.
     
  8. Miku Da Yo 39

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    Your thinking about it totally wrong, at least I HAVE healing, think about the poor boats that have no healing. Speeder bandages now heal like 20, other boats don't even heal, their HP just drops and drops, moreover they can't even get healed by much. My heals allow me to at least extend the time before I die. Others hit with flares will die in say 30 seconds, I will die on 60 seconds.
     
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  9. Gnu

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    I also forgot to mention you are also vulnerable to bonus cannons fire damage at the same time, if you are focus fired you'll get destroyed. Healing won't save you.
     
  10. Miku Da Yo 39

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    I also forgot to mention you are also vulnerable to bonus cannons fire damage at the same time, if you are focus fired you'll get destroyed. This applies to all boats. You think I'm screwed? Other boats are even more screwed.
     
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    What’s your setup? I want to know because I want to reach Nightmare League too but I doubt I’ll be able to on a Fixer.
     
  12. REAL"

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    Flare gun is balance now. It jsut work better when combating with fixer. The slow effect of flare gun deserve higher damage and heal reduction

    Otherwise, the team with fixer will always win

    In stead of nerf the famous weapons, i think we should focus more on buff the uncommon weapons such as mortar
     
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  13. Fixer sa Recto

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    And you're forgetting the cannon-type buffs it's getting aside from the miserable unending burn.
     
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    Already have this post :3
     
  15. REAL"

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    The cannon-type bonus is already nerf in the last update.
    The slow effect of flare gun deserve all the cannon-type bonus, heal reduction and higher damage.

    If we nerf flare gun, everyone will turn to use sniper and blast, the variety of weapons will further decrease.

    But in that moment, people will still complain sniper and blast are op

    I think the haert of the matter is that some weapons really need buff in order to provide more choices for players
     
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  16. @YSL

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    Copy from my comment on facebook:

    "Completely agree. Flare is op AF. The stackable thing is bullshit.
    BdziRyan got 3 flare marks and my bolt healed him for +395 instead of 1262. The flare itself is ok, the fact that it stacks is OP. Without talking about the bonus dmg you get on burning targets. No one could argue with that.

    It also makes bandage useless since it also reduces it."

    [​IMG]
     
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  17. nzouF

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    As i said a million times : Why there's no Feelix talent that removes the burn effect with the repair bolt/box/pulse ?
     
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  18. @YSL

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    @nzouF that nerf is way too harsh. It will make flare and firebomb almost useless.
     
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  19. Ash KOT

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    Just stopping flares from stacking would be more balanced.
     
  20. REAL"

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    Maybe the formula of fire stacks effect need patching
     

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