The new way they pick rivalries promotes tanking

The update was great except for the way the guilds are selected in rivalry. It should be based on infamy, not how many quests you completed in a week. Why should guilds that barely play get the 42,000 token reward and guilds that work their butts off get a 1,000 token reward?

Plus this will promote tanking during rivalries. Guilds won't compete one week just so they can come in first the following week.

 

I would like to see the reward for finishing a board scale with the difficulty and follow the multiplier of the individual quest rewards.

 

I disagree, i think matching guilds based on their infamy promotes tanking, guild rivalry has became much more fair and square after the update.

 

How do you like the idea, that every player will receive the same reward for the quests, no matter he did one or fifty?
How do you like the idea, that every player will receive the same monthly reward for battles, no matter he did one or one thousand?

I don't want to disappoint you, but the rivalry bonus works in this way right now. The fact, that you don't understand it makes you think it's fine.
Of course maybe you just answered "yes" to my first two questions, then you realize how it works and you really like it

 

With current guild matchmaking system, you get rivals that completes same amount of quests as you, how much more fair rivalry do you want. And matchmaking based on total guild infamy is unfair to the core, many guilds were floating and intentionally keeping their infamy low to get easier rivals, this was the sole reason devs changed the matchmaking in first place, and now you guys want to go back to that utterly unfair system..Smh

 

I will try to explain again

How do you understand Equality and Fairness?
When the result depends on efforts, or when it is the same for everyone?

Is it fair when you go to work 40 hours per week, and your neighbour sits at home doing nothing, but you receive the same reward?
Or is it fair when you receive more for doing more?

Don't you realize that current Rivalry gives everyone the same reward? Don't you understand that there is no rivalry at all?

 

Dude, that's how guild rivalries have always worked, even before the update, no matter what kinda matchmaking you bring up, rewards are always gonna be same for every one respective of their rivalry rank, a rock bottom level guild need to complete just few quests and they can score 42k reward while guilds like rebellion has to go well over 60 quests to get that same reward.
The only thing that has changed after the update, now rivalries are much more fair, no longer can any guild exploit the system by deliberately tanking their infamy and get easier opppnenets.

 

Exact opposite of this, now rivalry isvery intense and competitive now than before.

 

Actually current rivalry system is much better. Now rivalry are Competitive and Fair.
And about tanking, devs never said that they will give rivalry acc. To previous rivalry results. Maybe they are counting two or more previous Rivalry quest done. How will people tank then.

 

Remember that a top guild pulls like 200k tokens before they even get the 42k. It hardly matters if they get 1st or 6th. I once took a week-long break and when I came back I had like 80k+ tokens. We're not even a top guild, comprised of mostly 1k infamy players. Forget about the bonus for getting 1st place. Play hard and have fun!

 

There is no rivalry, if result doesn't depend on what I do.

I can do zero quests, I can do 100 quests, the reward from rivalry will be the same for me in a long run.
We have reward from quests, but we don't have rivalry.

 

Ah, now I'm following. This clarifies the OP's point for me.

 

This would fix that issue.

 

Or just increasing the reward for clearing the boards. If rivalry bonus will stand just for 10% of overall tokens, nobody will blame because of current system.

But it won't fix the issue that in fact there is nothing to stimulate the competition. Because doing more efforts in one season leads to less rewards in the next one.
Nobody cares about places of their opponents in this rivalry, the only thing matters - tokens.

The proper system would work like this: I do more - I receive more.
How system works now: do whatever you want, everyone is equal

 

How about something like this:
Change 1st place reward to just 2k tokens, then 1k for 2nd, 500 for 3rd, and so on. Multiply that amount by the amount of quests completed by your guild at the end of the rivalry. 50 quests = 100k tokens for first place. 2 quests? Just 4k.

These are just example numbers, let the devs figure out what's fair for the base values.

 

Sounds good, I like it

But matchmaking based on completed quests will still lead to the following situation:
1. Your average performance as a guild is 50 quests per week (in this way everyone plays the game to the comfortable level)
2. You get the same opponents (50q/w)
3. You try hard, skip your work and don't kiss your wife - you complete 60 quests this week
4. Congratulations, first place!
5. Next week, your average performance is the same (50 quests), but your opponents have 60.
6. Take your last place with 50 q/w
7. Go to 1

 

Classic push-pull of a ranked system. At least it'll still be worth it to reach high. 50x a base reward of like 500 is still like 25k. Add that to the better rewards from the quests themselves and it becomes suboptimal to tank the rivalry system.

 

Yeah, that is why matchmaking by completed quests is a terrible idea.

Let's be honest, for now we don't have interesting clan vs clan system. Developers would better just delete this rivalry and keep only tokens for quests and boards.

My idea:
Create a global competition between ALL clans.

Top 1% of clans with the highest trophies farmed - top 1 reward
Top 5% of clans with the highest trophies farmed - top 2 reward
Top 10% of clans with the highest trophies farmed - top 3 reward
Top 20% of clans with the highest trophies farmed - top 4 reward
Top 30% of clans with the highest trophies farmed - top 5 reward
Top 50% of clans with the highest trophies farmed - top 6 reward
Else - top 7 reward

trophies - for guild quest contribution

This will be interesting and stimulating.

 

This right here. 100% Help Together Yes.