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The Fix for the Fire

Discussion in 'Suggestions & Ideas' started by HARPO!, 23 Apr 2018.

  1. HARPO!

    HARPO! Well-Known Member

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    Nerf Fire bomb and flare’s duration to like 8 seconds.

    Right now the amount of damage someone can soak up from a flare or a firebomb was same if not greater than when people were frosted.
     
  2. Help I Cant Swim

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    Disagreed. Flare is already seeing a decline in usage. Fire Bomb is very popular still, but 8 seconds is a massive nerf. Fire is different than Frost because fire comes from a weapon, so it needs to function independent of any combos. If you make it 8 seconds, then you might as well make them yellow items.
     
  3. Shadow Moon!

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    How are you supposed to break shields? If duration is nerfed then damage should go up by 5 times atleast.
     
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    Nerf flare to 8sec, BUT increase damage per tick proportionately.
     
  5. Shadow Moon!

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    That's what I said..
    My flares duration is 20 sec reducing it to 8 sec means 40% duration nerf.
    My flare does 53 per tick so damage should go up by 40% that is around 73 or 74.
     
  6. Da Carronade King

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    uh that is a 60% duration nerf by the way.
    Check ur maths.
     
  7. Bradley Thorinsson

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    To counter the 15s (with perks 23+ seconds) duration of the firebomb, why not make duration perks for the repair pulse?
     
  8. HARPO!

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    Or just buff frost again :D:rolleyes:
     
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  9. SupremeCalamitas

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    Or just make a new yellow item: anti mortar projectile :rolleyes::p
     
  10. Scourge Argaen

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    Fire Bomb is fine at it is as the duration fluctuates a lot to either matching a flare to just tickling, it just needs the AoE zone fixing. The Flare is a nuisance as there's no counter to the damage increase (i.e. damage debuff / healing buff effects) however the overall damage probably is in line with your higher end weapons. As a fixer having to heal against it, to reduce the duration but increase the damage would be challenging as it's more burst but at least the damage increase benefit gained wouldn't last as long so a silver lining.

    I certainly wouldn't have a complaint of a +duration perk as per @Bradley Thorinsson
     
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  11. Fluid Bait

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    I think it's pretty well balanced right now. And I say that as frost-torp speeder main who uses a T1 rare frost blaster at 1.5k infamy where at least 50% of ships are mk5 shooters with T4 rares or T3 epics.
     
  12. SlayerofSergeants

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    Reduction to 8 seconds would be a duration reduction nerf of 60%. Your flare damage would need to go up by 250% for same amount of damage:
    Current - 53*20 = 1060
    Future - 53*2.5*8 = 1060
    You would need 132.5 damage per tic.
     
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  13. kurdish bndo

    kurdish bndo Active Member

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    No and never , flare gum is already OP(in my opinion )

    Lvl 50 epic with all epic perks deal 1.7k damage in maybe 20s ,so now it will deal 1.7k in 12s that will be too much , you don't think ,now i know you don't have a t5 epic ,do you? But a lot of players are using t5 epic setup in my infamy range
     
  14. HARPO!

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    Wouldn’t you want to frost those guys?
     
  15. HARPO!

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    So if I gotta flare doing 20 damage for 20 seconds, that’s 400 damage total. Bring it down to 8 seconds and Increase the damage by 25%, you’ll get a flare that does 200 damage, that’s fine for me.

    I just hate that 2/3 of my health goes due to the stupid flare combo and my epic frost blaster is sitting like trash in my garage.
     
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  16. Ian

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    Sorry to say that nerfing flare isn’t the solution to fixing a useless frost blaster
     
  17. SupremeCalamitas

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    And then what are we gonna use huh?

    Burn perks would be useless because nobody would want to use flare gun anymore. It would become an unused item like carronade and tritorp.
     
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    I've been there lmao. That's why I said it. My point is, a nerf to duration will just serve to make FG OP.
     
  19. SupremeCalamitas

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    Just scrap the frost launcher.
     
  20. HARPO!

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    It at least does something, flare too op.
     

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