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Speeder needs more red slots

Discussion in 'Game Discussion' started by SupremeCalamitas, 19 Feb 2018.

  1. SupremeCalamitas

    SupremeCalamitas Well-Known Member

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    The speeder class is fast, and is sometimes used for kamikaze attacks. However, one problem: you can only fit 2 weapons in the thing. What's the point of going Kamikaze if you don't got any weapons?
     
  2. Shadow Moon!

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    And everything is on cooldown these days tesla bolt is no longer viable to wait and reload weapons as it breaks by 1 shot has forever stun immunity and cool down equal to a 2 slot weapon.
     
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  3. Ian

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    nah 2 slots is fine
     
  4. _devill

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    The point of a kamikaze attack is to take out a weak unfriend or a high priority target like fixer, to give your team an advantage. Kamikaze strategy requires stealth, accuracy and an understanding of the battle situation. Adding to this having a good knowledge about your weapons also helps. As a speeder you have to make sure the target goes down in 2 to 3 shots at most which can be achieved with 2 weapons. Usually speeders run with burst damage weapons or combo so they can take out an unfriend and escape. If you want 3 weapons go with an enfo. :)
     
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  5. SupremeCalamitas

    SupremeCalamitas Well-Known Member

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    Cool down also makes things a problem, but imagine if there was no cooldown. Also how to make new thread
     
  6. Shadow Moon!

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    The nerf to bolt has made dual TS enfo op. You first take down 1 TS by bolt then will insta activate next TS and then flare blast blast speeder dead. If you shoot first then if it breaks then stun and execute combo still you get hit with flare dual blast.
    Bolt's cooldown should reduce when speeder gets hit by 7sec allowing to again stun and run.
     
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  7. YerJokinArnYer

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    The situation you describe is definitely not the case in non-nightmare leagues. TS shields at those lower levels break too easily. As a long time lower level enforcer, I can’t run dual TS (as shields not strong enough), so I run TS + TB. Enforcer does not feel OP down here. Speeders are still very effective down here.
    Even at high levels, surely the only way that dual TS can be OP is if players have focused heavily on point damage weapons. (In a game of rock, paper, scissors - TS would beat cannons (that has always been inherent in their design), but have their own weaknesses). Watching YSLs latest video, they are having success with a combo of blast cannon, mines and grenade on enforcer which is effective against other enforcers.
     
  8. Super Speeder 0

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    i need mor red
     
  9. Sifa

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    Of course. I also want all the ships and items I use myself, buffed greatly. Please 6th red slot and 4th blue slot to shooter - and hey, maybe we could also have new yellow slot to shooter too? And also buff sniper, railgun, missiles, fire bomb and swift torpedo because they are the weapons I use and they must be too weak in current game because I still haven't been able to reach top 10 after thousands of battles with this setup!

    #SarcasmEndsHere.

    On a serious note it's funny to see everyone asking buff to their own ship always. By meta analysis from the past top 50 nighmare ships it's pretty clear that defender (and maybe fixer) are the only ships that need a buff currently. I'm not calling nerf to any other ships tho. No one really likes their own stuff nerfed so buffing the weak parts of the game would be the way to go. And in this case, it's mostly defender that needs a buff, not speeder.
     
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  10. Earel

    Earel Active Member

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    Yes , speeder need at least 4 weapon and mb 1 edition y yellow weight slot and mb 2 blue slots for sure, be the quickest and immortal boat in bay.
    5 speeder vs 5 speeder , rovio why u create so many unused boats((
     
  11. Cozytrendsetter

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    Speeder should have 2 slots for everything.2 rr 2yy 2bb
     
  12. _devill

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    Mk4 has 2 slots for everything. :p
     
  13. TheAntiSnipe

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    Speeder deserves 100 slots!!!

    Jk it doesn't need any slot change, and I say this as a speeder main(almost).
     
  14. ViscountSniffit

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    Actually, that’s the most ridiculous part about the Tesla Bolt nerf. People bang on about Tesla Bolt being OP, and I certainly feel it was an essential part of my build, BUT...

    I would have dropped it in a heartbeat for an extra Blast Cannon. I would have thrown it straight in the scrap, and never looked back, if I could replace it with a Blast/Sniper.

    Why nerf Tesla Bolt when practically every other ship can take an extra gun instead (which actually does damage). So stupid.
     
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  15. Kalbs

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    I'm a Speeder and I don't agree with this. It will make the Speeder the clear cut best boat.
     
  16. RagingStorm

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    Imagine that! It would be in a meta by itself, top 50 would be all banana ‍♂️.
     
  17. Kalbs

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    Why don't we also give it a green slot so it can also heal itself after a kamikaze attack? Totally not biased suggestion.
     
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  18. Snapshot

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    The better question is why do you have problems successfully executing a kamikaze with your current 2 gun tubes? I pretty much assume that if I'm willing to die in the effort then my chosen target is going down. Just like in real life scenarios, it is really hard to stop someone who literally has nothing to lose. There is the matter of timing and execution though.
     
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  19. *JAWS*

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    You wouldnt feel this way if enforcers were slower.

    Right now enforcers are speeders with 3 weapons slots. And 2 tesla shields. Op compared to speeders since last 2 updates. Developers have even told me Enforcer is the best boat. By far.

    I am against giving speeders 3 red slots.
    But am not against speeders getting faster.

    And enforcers slowing down
     
  20. kusura bakmayin

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    Agreed, Speeder and Enforcer are too similar to each other right now, and a speed adjustment like you described would do that pretty well.
     

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