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Please fix Balancing

Discussion in 'Game Discussion' started by "Scooby", 10 Aug 2017.

  1. "Scooby"

    "Scooby" Member

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    How is it a fair match up when entire enemy fleet has teir 4+ epics and teir 2 or 3 legendary and yet friendly fleet has all rares n low lvl epic weapons? Or even mk5 and 6s ships but yet friendly fleet has mk4s n mk5s? Im confused on the match making strategy...can this b fix 4 better/fair match making?!
     
  2. Kitterini

    Kitterini Well-Known Member

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    Matchmaking is based solely on infamy.

    Infamy is a meassurement of your ability (skulle, gear, level combined).

    People matched according to their actual ability is working fine, and almost all games are winable for a team that works together!
     
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  3. "Scooby"

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    An enemy fleet with twice the power n twice the strength still seems unfair to me...im mk5 and have been playin for a few months now...jus stating facts...some ppl dont pay $1000s of dollars to win. Balancing DOES need some wrk! Im not the only one debating this matter. Im jus the one whos posting "bugs" on forums...i understand its a new game but you cant tell me they havent made enough money already 2 "wrk out the kinks"
     
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  4. Wishaal

    Wishaal Well-Known Member

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    I feel honored that the game aknowledges me to have the same skill as the rest of my team.
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  5. "Scooby"

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    Ive yet to see em do something about droppers/farmers...they did say these players will not be rewarded at the end of each battle...but why are they still dropping 500+ below there league?
     
  6. Kitterini

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    Serious or just hyperbole?
    You are matched as a team VS another team. Teams have stars and waterboys, your role varies from game to game.

    Bring it, Im so ready for another matchmaking thread put down! :)
     
  7. Kitterini

    Kitterini Well-Known Member

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    If they are twice as strong (hyperbole much?) they will eclipse your infamy in No time. The system is what it is, and solves its task just fine. You do not lose to matchmaking, you lose to poor teamplay and individual mistakes. The faster you stop blaiming defeats on the matchmaking and start focusing on what you improve, the better a player you will become.

    If you are consistantly matched against higher mk boats in better gear, it means you are doing well. Take it as a compliment and rise to the challenge!

    Or at the very least post in one of the numerous threads with the same topic. This forum has seen plenty of these nonsense threads!
     
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  8. Wishaal

    Wishaal Well-Known Member

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    Did you just assume my role to be waterboy? *triggered*
     
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  9. Kitterini

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    Anyone paired up with Orpheus are waterboys :)
     
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  10. "Scooby"

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    If there "plenty of nonsense" on forums isnt that a hint? I adverage at the LEAST 8000 damage a battle! I cant carry the fleet every battle! Wat bout farmers/droppers? Ppl who jus sit and watch there team mates die 2 drop 4 easier wins? Ive seen this happening since the game was released and yet to see something done. Im jus stating facts here...sry i was raised actions speak louder then words.

    No need to get bent outta shape...if this thread offends you apparently the truth hurts. Or mayb you just spent to much money and refuse 2 state the obvious
     
  11. Kitterini

    Kitterini Well-Known Member

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    Brilliant! I disagree with you and your response is to aim for the player, nicely done! Aim for the highroad buddy :)

    The truth is not always your perception of things. More than one person complaining does not always equate them having a good point.
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    Right now you are winning (roughly) 50% of your matches. What would a more "fair" matchmaking outcome be?

    Yes there are floaters, infamy droppers, people in different level boats, and sealclubbers. But what these threads tend to ignore is that all these things happen to both teams. These threads always falls back to "when I win its because I'm an amazing player, when I lose its due to broken and unfair matchmaking".

    If you are fighting against higher mk boats with better weapons its because those players suck. There are plenty of mk6 shooters around 3k infamy, but they are nowhere near the level of Christmas. Matching them as such would be a trash experience for them and would result in much more loopsided battles than we have now.
     
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  12. "Scooby"

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    Whoa whoa whoa some1 didnt have there coffee and must have nothing better 2 do then 2 spread there pms all ovr forums...whinning? Stating facts and whinning are 2 HUGH differences! I can already tell you spend 2 win! Hense your reaction and replies...i am not tlkin 2 players who "pay 2 win" im tlkin 2 the 1s who wrk and learn actual strategies and how 2 actually play! This doesnt concern you or your response! Please remove yourself from this thread and enjoy wasting your money...i dont have time for attitude from some1 who is only trying defend what they obviously dont understand...try actually playing the game and earn your rank before you talk of correct balancing...thx 4 ur miserable input. Wasnt trying 2 make an enemy, was tryin 2 point out the obvious but i guess there is still pay 2 win players who will nvr understand
     
  13. The Afenogaster

    The Afenogaster Well-Known Member

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    I have been in those matches with "broken" matchmaking, but I have to say some things related to this higher tier/weapons unfriends. For example, yesterday I was matched against an mk6 speeder and an mk6 shooter and other team mates mk5 as an mk 4! Shooter, they had superior weapons and hp and defense and speed and overall they intimidate a lot but the reality is that they were horrible players, I did not miss a shot, I did 10k damage and we destroyed them ez, is that unfair matchmaking NO but you can't say it's unfair since the end of the battle because it could turn into a total annihilation for the enemy team or not and it might surprise you!
     
  14. The Afenogaster

    The Afenogaster Well-Known Member

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    Hey chill! There are some players with crappy boats and crappy rare tier 2 blast cannons that have been the second of the season for some time ! Cough, Me ,cough but yeah f2w is not an easy way to get up but I'll tell u something, we might not do the most damage, we might not do as well as people that pay but we , at least me, are better players then the average, I have learned to aim, to fight, to torpeeeedo more people than a p2w player that has heis legendary big torp but I have enjoyed it more even not one shooting people and still doing 400 dmg with my blast cannon
     
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  15. murius

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    I think what needs to be fixed is the team makeup. Meaning not having 3 fixers or 5 shooters against 1 fixer, 2 shooter, 1 speeder and 1 defender. I know for me as a fixer i am a steady 1300ish player. My highest was 1476 but also went down to 800's. The frustrating part of the loses and the lose of my infamy were games where my team split 4 different ways and I had to follow one of them. The other team stayed together and crushed us. In a few games gear played a part where players had Tier 4 and above weapons. I know there was some talk about players dropping their infamy on purpose so they can get stars/rewards from quests.

    I think what Rovio really needs to do is provide other games and not just a 5v5.
     
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  16. Biffter

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    Although I agree with most of your comments on this forum..and yes matchmaking is based on infamy which SHOULD work.
    Matchmaking isn't the problem..it's players taking advantage of KNOWING they can drop a certain amount before rewards stop that ARE the problem.
    I reached 2030 infamy just after last season started..but since then have dropped to around 1400. Yep..made a few mistakes..BUT the main problem I had was mk5 even mk6 in my team doing 700-900 damage before dying. This happened in around 80% of games..are they underperforming?..or just blatantly dropping infamy without triggering floating detection/being reported for floating.
    So again..yes matchmaking based on infamy should work..BUT there are a LOT of people manipulating it.
    If I'm correct the drop limit is 800?..maybe it should be lowered to stop players dropping so far?
    I still enjoy playing..and I do my best to win..but I've lost all interest in the infamy ladder..there's no point when you have higher tiered players greasing the rungs for you.
     
  17. Joey who

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    If it was based on mk we would see mk1s in nightmare league. No matter how godly you think you are there are ranges every mk should be in. If you don't like it buy legendaries.
     
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  18. Biffter

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    Buying legendaries isn't the answer. Why pay out hundreds/thousands to get a legendary only to be in a team of 4vs 5 within 40 seconds? As I said above..higher tier players are manipulating infamy..whether it's mk4 at 400 infamy..or mk5/6 at 1500 infamy. Imo THIS is the cause of most complaints about matchmaking.
    I managed to reach 2030 with mk4 shooter with only tier 2 weapons..mk4 at 400 infamy??..or mk5/6 at 1400 infamy?? I don't buy they're underperforming..especially when all they do is 800-900 damage..they're blatantly dropping infamy to farm resources.
     
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  19. Joey who

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    The game is set to balance good and bad players in the same battles so everyone has a fair chance. Due to this balance everyone will win around half of their battles. If you start winning more than 50% you will be placed with harder enemies and/or less skilled teammates. The most effective way around this is buying high level items to carry your teams. If you don't want to, just continue playing to level up your items and boat mk, then you will find yourself climbing infamy. :)
     
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  20. "Scooby"

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    Mk1s in nightmare lol thats funny xD
     

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