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  1. ryanllts

    ryanllts Active Member

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    ryanllts, 8 Jun 2018
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  2. SlayerofSergeants

    SlayerofSergeants Well-Known Member

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    As far as I know, GS does not take into account crew talents.

    Perks are factored into gear score.
     
    SlayerofSergeants, 8 Jun 2018
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  3. R@jith anand

    R@jith anand Well-Known Member

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    Yeah I also noticed one thing the players having 3k gs are matched with 6.5k gs. Also my gs is 5k. But I am matched with 7k gs and 2k gs. Is this event MM really based on gs?
     
    R@jith anand, 8 Jun 2018
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  4. TVNPryde

    TVNPryde Well-Known Member

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    There are probably more variables in it the devs not telling people about. In the early hours, there are probably a lot of people playing so there is no reason for the big gaps.
     
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  5. Rainbow Warrior

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    Which means that only the devs know what the matchmaking is based on.
     
    Rainbow Warrior, 8 Jun 2018
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  6. envylife

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    The devs do want Matchmaking to be secret so that players can't game it like they can with infamy... let's face it, BB allows players to tank infamy hundreds of points in a matter of minutes, which would have made the events exploitable... so they came up with gear score to allow Matchmaking based on gear, and urged people to try different configurations because Matchmaking would take care of it. In this third event it seems they hosed Matchmaking up trying to fix something... i.e., trying to over-complicate it. Matchmaking for this event is by far the worst matchmaking I've seen in my year of playing.
     
    envylife, 9 Jun 2018
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  7. Bradley Thorinsson

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    #NewbLivesMatter
     
    Bradley Thorinsson, 11 Jun 2018
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  8. Jamesnyc

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    DUH..

    Both gear score and matchmaking suck and the DEVs just keep giving the players the finger

    They dont care at all, period

    Those legandary weapons gear score amounts need to be raised significantly.. Its so unfair and mis-matched

    But the devs think a T2 legandary is some how equal with a T4 epic
     
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  9. Zeus

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    First off, please do try to present your feedback in a bit more useful manner than just slander.

    Second off, a maxed t4 epic std cannon has a base of 388 damage, while a t2 unlevelled legendary std cannon has a base of 402, and an GS of 691 vs 712
     
    Zeus, 11 Jun 2018
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  10. Rainbow Warrior

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    What is the gear score of a level 20 legendary item? I don't have it.
    PS: Oops, nevermind. Thanks, Zeus
     
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  11. ryanllts

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    he took it too far, but he got the point, inaccurate gs is hurting gs making. when matching newbs with maxed captian nightmare, gs is inccurtate due to talanet. also legend has like 10% less gs then epic with same power, and same as epic vs rares. the worst is perks, on most weapons perks increase 80% gs on a weapon but only 14% increase on damage output. all together ends up someone has same gs but double or tripples fire power and lots more hp. i got tons of replays like this, my friends are not happy with this 1vs 10 match up, yup, someone can 1 vs 10 in a game.
     
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  12. ryanllts

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    forgot to say one of my 3k infamy friend has 100% win rate playig with mk2 3s. so fun that she can 1 or 2 shots anyone, killing newbs is fun. easy event, easy perks. she want he to say thank you to dev here and she think the matchmaking is good.
     
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    there, got more like this from other 3k 4k players. isnt that nice? i share a guide with them on how to exploit the matchmaking, new they so happy with the matchmaking, and they are fighting on the forum to keep the matchmking going. becareful when you reading on the forum. u guys should make new accounts and play it your self if you wan this game to live long because newbs dont speak out, you only hear the voice of old players on the fourm.
     

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  14. YerJokinArnYer

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    Ok, I’ve watched the match. Was it fair ? Probably not. But here’s an alternative viewpoint about why it wasn’t fair.
    1. The oppositions best player was in a T3 defender. Defender was the best ship again in this event. He was also a nightmare player so well skilled and with good crew training.
    2. Your best player was in a T1 enforcer. I would guess from his gear, that he was receiving the ‘unusual gear combination’ message when using that ship. That means that the game does give some extra weighting to their gear score to try to stop them gaming the system. Enforcer was one of the weaker ships in this event. So (I’d guess) your best player hampered your whole team with his choice of ship.
    3. The opposition also had another defender. You had none.
    So there you have it. It think the game wasn’t fair to most of the players in the game because your best player tried to game the system too hard and was using a poor ship choice and your whole team took the punishment as a result. The oppositions best player used the best ship for the event, and there was also a defender on his team too.

    I do feel sorry for the other players in this match. But it was probably a ‘perfect storm’ of events that conspired against you. I may be wrong, but I don’t think that this would be representative of all your matches.

    Having given further consideration, I think from the way that the gametag is written, that (I may be wrong) you were the enforcer. I apologise if this is not the case.
     
    YerJokinArnYer, 11 Jun 2018
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  15. Jamesnyc

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    Its not slander when its the truth and been going on for what a year now.

    Pulling up a spreadsheet and comparing 1 off weapon to another 1 off weapon, is absolutely no help.. Do you devs actually play the game you are developing. Im guessing, no because if you did you would see the frustrations of the players. Create an account and try and play like one of us lay players.

    Oh, How about a T4 epic long range or T5 rare big bertha compared to a T1 or T2 legandary torp or mine or big bertha or rail gun.. those leggys do WAY WAY more damage.

    Also, this should be self explanatory but LEGANDARY weapons should have a MUCH MUCH MUCH higher gear score than rare or epics.

    Or maybe just chuck this whole lvl 45 account and just start over at 0..
     
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  16. ryanllts

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    got that replay from chating , they all having trouble with these people. from mk1 to mk5, they all having trouble with nightmare players carry maxed epic.
     
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  17. Rainbow Warrior

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    You think legendary should have bigger GS because you don't like yellow?
     
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  18. YerJokinArnYer

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    Ok, just with you posting it, I leapt to wrong conclusion.

    As I’ve said in other posts, all players need to think about how many items they should be carrying in reduced cooldown events. If you clicked the weapons/items one after the other, how many would you have clicked before the first item is available again? If you still have items unused, then you’re carrying too much. Also players need to think about which ship to run in these events - whilst we have reasonable balance in regular gameplay, it is not as even in events. Sometimes it is not about playing harder, but playing smarter, and so it is ideas such as these that new players need to be discussing because the more experienced players certainly are.

    But Devs do listen to the feedback from all players on events, but obviously it is more useful and better received if it is done in a constructive and positive way. For example, if I was making this thread, I’d start by stating my point, give examples of what what doesn’t appear right (more than one, as isolated instances do occur), and suggest potential solutions. There are a million and one ‘matchmaking sucks’ threads, but if you can write the.... ‘and this is how to solve it’ part, then you’ll get threads that people really take an interest in. The forum is crying out for that kind of thinking from new players.
     
    YerJokinArnYer, 11 Jun 2018
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  19. YerJokinArnYer

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    Similarly, say there was a increased cooldown event. I’d be looking to have short cooldown weapons on my boat such as standard cannon, carronade etc to avoid periods where there was no button available to press.
     
    YerJokinArnYer, 11 Jun 2018
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  20. ViscountSniffit

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    Actually, the reason it’s ‘not’ slander is because slander is generally spoken; defamation in writing is called ‘libel’.

    / Correction nazi :cool:
     
    ViscountSniffit, 11 Jun 2018
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