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Nightmare players stay at 4000 on purpose

Discussion in 'Game Discussion' started by Flint, 8 Oct 2018.

  1. Flint

    Flint Well-Known Member

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    Hello all,

    A Nightmare player who I know well told me about a trick they use to reap the rewards in the Nightmare league by staying at 4000 Infamy. They often fight only event battles and let their Infamy remain on 4000, so they get the rewards all Nightmare players get.

    Some are afraid to lose and so lose these rewards also, so they just stop playing normal battles.

    And I thought this game was for playing....not acting like a chicken...

    Rewards should be given for people who play IMO.

    Regards,
    Flint
     
  2. JoshW

    JoshW Well-Known Member

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    I totally agree.
    If a player does not participate in x amount of battles during a season they should not get any season rewards.
    This happens at every league transition. Players will reach just under the max infamy for their league and stop playing so they can get 1-10 place every week. It's not that big a deal for players who gain enough to move up but players like me who routinely get just under the required infamy are missing out on rewards that they earned.
    Example time!!
    I have been stuck in Master 1 for ages, week after week I get up to 2.2k infamy before an Epic losing streak ensues. The players sitting at 2,229ish are bumping me down a rewards slot every week. Sometimes it's the difference between 1st and 2nd place and other times it's the difference between 3rd-10th rewards and 11 below rewards. Now the season rewards aren't great to begin with but every little bit helps.
     
  3. Kurd1stan.

    Kurd1stan. Well-Known Member

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    I'm doing that too , why?
    because

    I can't play fixer because of flare's heal reduction , all those Sniper's crits and players who don't know how to play with a fixer,

    I can't play speeder because of all those mines ,it is like 95% enforcers use one ,and many other players use it , I left NML before because of that ,

    i have no items for enforcer and defender

    and for shooter well it is my main ship and I don't wanna use my T2E mine or T5R carronade because my mine isn't powerful -2k damage and carronade is useless on a shooter (most of times ), so I have to use 2 EC and 2 Big torp ,and they aren't useful after the agility update and it isn't useful , and also there are a lot of mortar spammers ,

    so I don't want/can't play normal matches now , I'm depending on NML reward so that I can build that shooter setup that I want so I can play ,

    I don't wanna play normal matches if it is frustrating and not fun to play ,so why I will play for fun if I can't have fun now ?,

    so you should blame me or Devs for not balancing this game and focusing on win ration more than fun ration ?;)
     
  4. Flint

    Flint Well-Known Member

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    Hiya!

    I am not blaming anyone and merely pointing out a flaw and hopes it gets attention. Because people should be rewarded for effort. So, if the battles are not in balance, then that is a valid point you make and that should be addressed. It is nuts that people stop playing because of these issues. And as you said it should be fun to play.

    I think there must come a new league on top of Nightmare also. I have some idea, but currently not enough energy to work it all out. That said, so many of our ideas remain on the shelf anyway, which is the main problem in this game. Want to keep players (customers) in this game, address the existing problems first.

    Regards,
    Flint
     
  5. Craigjnoble

    Craigjnoble Well-Known Member

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    I do play after the resets, but towards the end of the the season I make sure I am above the 4k to keep my rewards.
    My main issue is there is no drive to try and get above the 4k. I am never going to win and where you up against 1900 players in your league there no point in competing.
    Part of the other issue is you have your main boat. If you want to play/practice with another setup you will drop infamy and therefor might drop out the league.
    Event rewards are (or were, depending on what happens next) greater than the league rewards. So again no point in playing leagues.
    But I agree maybe a 10 battle requirement to be eligible to maintain your league. If you don’t do enough battles there’s a penalty -100 to infamy or something.
     
  6. JoshW

    JoshW Well-Known Member

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    Negative infamy for not participating is a bad idea. Those who don't play week after week will continue to drop down into lower leagues then when they decide to play ranked again they will just dominate everyone. It would essentially be infamy tanking without having to float or throw matches.
     
  7. American Marauder

    American Marauder Well-Known Member

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    Why do you care?

    I'm one of those. I'm done playing ranked games. I'm tired of worrying about a score i can't control because i'm stuck with a bunch of noobs. So i will only play Events going forward. It's also better for my eyes since staring at a phone is killing them slowly. I don't know why you would care enough to make a forum post about it. And I'm tired of being reset and reset and reset. Done with Ranked forever.
     
  8. Flint

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    I can ask the same question, if you don't care then why react ;)?

    But besides that, I am addressing an issue. I have opted for a new score before in which we get 50% for team effort and 50% for personal. Or 30% - 70%, so you get a more balanced score as a player instead of having a bad day with all bad teams and losing because of it.

    Make it easier for people to play, so they don't have to stop anyway. I don't mean you have to play 100s battles a day, so I don't get why you bring that up.

    But what is wrong with ranked, there must be a goal in every game you have to work for.

    And still if you donit play anyway, why be rewarded for it? You get rewarded for doing a grand job with your business as well. Not for idling about.

    Regads,
    Flint
     
  9. American Marauder

    American Marauder Well-Known Member

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    There are no goals anymore for Ranked. It does nothing for me but frustrate me and make me hate the game. I don't feel the same about it when i play Events. Sure i get pissed off when i do 48K and a Mark 7 Defender does 1180 damage (you know who you are). I also prefer the chance to respawn. I play aggressive and this affords me the ability to play how i like to play.

    Ranked is dead to me.

    PS: I know a lot of players feel as i do. If Rovio was smart, they would make events longer or more frequent. It's the only thing keeping the game fresh since we get 2 new maps every 15 months...
     
  10. EyeOfDoom

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    There is no reason to complete in nightmare. Everyone outside top 10 gets same rewards and there's no progression thanks to season reset. When you know that 5k isn't any better than 4k, why bother?
     
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  11. Fish

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    But you can’t get the star crates every day (any day) if you don’t do ranked. That’s gotta hurt deep down. :eek:
     
  12. S2C

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    star crates lul
     
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  13. American Marauder

    American Marauder Well-Known Member

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    Actually I moved my mini account from an iPhone 6 Plus where the game plays like crap on it to my Android phone which allows me to use 2 accounts. So you may see me around the Bay occasionally.
     
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  14. TheAntiSnipe

    TheAntiSnipe Moon's haunted

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    Look, @Flint, no offence, but I feel that these folks do have a point. Nightmare is a lonely mountain to climb, and once you get there, there's not much left to push for. Also as an F2P, the only way to get leggy pieces is through NML rewards. And any player risking their rewards for ranked gameplay is making an uneven trade.

    Mark Brown from Game Maker's Toolkit(you should check out his channel, it's great) says that players, given the chance, can optimize the fun out of the game. Rovio has given the chance, basically.

    One could say that the NML tag is both unimportant and important. That duality is what is causing the main issue here.
     
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  15. EyeOfDoom

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    Oh no. The horror.:eek::eek:
     
  16. EyeOfDoom

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    Also it takes 2 leagues (a month) worth of bad luck to drop out of nightmare. Plenty of time for people to go down to 3-3.5k to finish guild quests then come back up when needed.
     
  17. envylife

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    I had a discussion just like this with a Fixer Guildmate... he is always very frustrated in the ranked matches trying to herd cats. He wants to eliminate Infamy entirely because he enjoys Events and not Ranked. Doing that would eliminate all progression, but when we have so many players that feel this way, the Devs need to take notice... and do something... even if it is a permanent event rotation to keep Infamy haters engaged.
     
  18. Terry Morgan

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    Its the same yellow boats winning every season. The devs didn't even give the new update a single season to see if the changes to agility and turrets would balance the bananas. They caved to the whiny op banana and fat banana spammers and nerfed the other boats back to hell without even seeing if the changes would make a difference. Ranked is no longer fun just let the GD bananas have ranked and fight themselves. I'll patiently wait for the next event so I can have non stressful fun.
     
  19. Exploxion

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    I dont play rank match anymore because the gold/sugar reward at the end match is too low. Event gives me more
     
  20. Aether_Zero

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    I've started avoiding playing ranked as much (basically daily quests and a couple of star crates) for the first 3-4 days after reset... Mainly due to the fact that most people play like absolute potatoes for whatever reasons.... Plus I seem to see more floaters during this time (on both teams - one game this morning had 2 on each team... And seeing as I was the last one actually fighting on my team, I took both floaters out with about 350hp left, easiest double kill I've ever had lmao!)
     

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