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NEW BLUE ITEMS

Discussion in 'Suggestions & Ideas' started by Subbie the Blaster, 29 Mar 2018.

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  1. Subbie the Blaster

    Subbie the Blaster Well-Known Member

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    I had the idea: what if there was a stronger turbo or bandage or whatever blue item at the cost of 2 points, like the shields? I guess that would lead to much more versatile builds... Any further ideas?
     
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    I like it. But not turbo, something like a "maneuvering jet" with cool visuals doing double of a rudder's work would look badass....
     
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    As much as I really want new blue items in this game, I'd rather see the current ones fixed first. Gear lube and rudder especially suffer from underusage due to turbo and shields being too important, nearly mandatory items. Until some balancing is done, I highly doubt any new items will survive in the current meta and will only make it harder to get the 3 blue items that matter (you know, because they're OP), 4 if you count the bandage.

    Yes, I'm a hypocrite, I've also posted my own ideas.
    Yes, I do like this idea ;)
     
  4. BasedCarpen

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    Rudder and Lube need to be one single slot item. Even then it would be less popular than turbo, big shield, and probably equal to bandage
     
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    Turbos and shields are a rare case where I suggest a nerf. The rudder and gear lube are actually pretty op.
     
  6. Help I Cant Swim

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    I hope you meant to say "underpowered".

    And I disagree that turbos and shields need a nerf. I don't think they are OP. I think they are well balanced, but there is absolutely no good alternative to them. If you create alternatives, then you'll see their use decrease.
     
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    That's the reason they're overpowered. Our ships are complete trash without them. No turbo? Snail. No shields? Origami. Any ship is deemed nearly useless without these items for this reason. The ships need a buff and these items need a nerf so that other items can be useful. You could make the gear lube auto lock onto enemies and never fail to turn as fast as you want it to and you'll still die too fast or be far too slow to survive.

    I'm quoting myself.
    "No amount of buffing gear lube or rudder will bring them into the meta."
    These items, if you've ever tried one, are actually very very powerful items, but they don't make enough of an impact because of the literally mandatory alternatives. At mk 5 speeder I tried using a t4 turbo and t4 rudder, both rare. My speed and agility were almost maxed. It felt great. When I switched my rudder for a t1 epic big shield I gained 1000 infamy. If this doesn't display the overpoweredness of the shields in this game, try thinking of this from a red item perspective.

    No item should be mandatory, this takes away creativity and limits the amount of items you can actually use besides turbo and shields, which is why most ships NEVER use alternatives before mk6 and achieve good results. Even now in top 100 players maybe 1 player at best uses a gear lube/rudder.
     
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    Well stated.
     
  9. Subbie the Blaster

    Subbie the Blaster Well-Known Member

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    Yep, also, I intended to make more variations with the 2-points-stronger-blue - item, so if you have 2 spare points on a single blue slot, it won't mean automatically big shield.
     
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    2 slot Big Bandage pretty please, some ships can do without the big shield, and make up for a std shield but with better regen. While at it, add another slot point to defenders to be able to utilise two 2 slot point items.
     
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    Subbie the Blaster Well-Known Member

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    Well, now here it is :)
     
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    I smell a necro...
     
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    Yea but still
     
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