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Matchmaking. Again =)))

Discussion in 'Game Discussion' started by AAZ7, 17 Jul 2018.

  1. AAZ7

    AAZ7 Active Member

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    For those who still whine about matchmaking. Here is an example. As you can see, 9/10 of ships are from Nightmare league. So pretty much balanced. But...
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    It's all about skill, guys... Lol =)
     
  2. ShipCrusherCz

    ShipCrusherCz Well-Known Member

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    Does it really matter?
    so you are offending those who suffer because of these seal clubbers? they have no skill in your opinion or what were you trying to say?
    and there's also a difference: complains are usually made by mk1-4 players because their ships are easily one/two shotted by seal clubbers' weapons, something you won't experience in mk6 shooter with t5 rare big shield
    just imagine this: you are in your mk4 ship with around 3k hp (usually not more unless defender or really tanky shooter atm or unless you're another seal clubber) and suddenly one frigging seal clubber with his shiny t5E and t1L blasts appear and (more than) 2/3 of your health are gone in just 2 shots, is that skill based?
    I agree that people with same items, ship MKs etc. but different leagues can be matched together as the skill is the only deciding factor there but not people with so different gear (difference of like 3 tiers but also the weaker are rares, the stronger are usually epics) and so different captain level-much better crew training at one side (it's not fair when there is lvl 50 captain against lvl 23 captain) but they are both using same ship MK-that's just not skill based win/loss
     
  3. AAZ7

    AAZ7 Active Member

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    First - there are complaints from different people, not only newbies.
    Second - yes, it's about skill. Some players are really difficult to shot at and some are easily predicted. Try to avoid shots, really.
    Third - I was not always mk6, you know...
     
  4. ShipCrusherCz

    ShipCrusherCz Well-Known Member

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    Does it really matter?
    first-I didn't say that complaints are ONLY from newbies, I said:
    and those are usually newbies (especially when they're under 1k infamy because it's easy to get to 800 when matched against bots-at least what I read at forums)
    second-is it reall skill based in all cases? and avoid shots? when you are playing shooter or defender and your enemy is yellow ship which is able to get close to you in seconds because at low range you can't dodge cannon shots
    I got matched against this ***** Screenshot_20180708-231054.png
    in 2v2 event (luckily I had my fleetmate and the second enemy was double sniper so we defeated them but it ended 4-3 and I ended with only around 300 hp and this ***** had his blasts loaded but I was quicker), he had over 2k hp, mine mk4 shooter had 2.7k hp (now more)
    his t5E was dealing slightly over 1k damage, t5R was dealing around 800, that's 1.8k combined damage-almost half of my hp in just two shots which can be fired with delay of 2.5 second
    his hp was slightly over 2k and mine weapon with biggest damage was t3R blast which dealt around (±30 damage) 600 damage (and that was only when I managed to set him on fire), he just rushed in, took half of my health with only two shots and nitroed away before I or my fleetmate could land second shot on him (if I remember it correctly-it's like 2 weeks ago)
    luckily I had my fleetmate (and we have played like 30 battles before this so we were co-ordinated well) and the second enemy was double sniper so we defeated them but it ended 4-3 and I ended with only around 300 hp and this ***** had his blasts loaded but I was quicker (and that's just because he target my fleetmate first so I could damage him before he target me, we also knew that we had 0 chance of defeating them in open area so we waited for him to come to our spawn-and he really came)
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    only the end of this battle was somehow "skill based" because we defeated them thanks to our tactic, not our shot leading skills, items etc.
    third-you shared screenshot where you are fightning with mk6 shooter against mk7 ships but their items aren't significantly stronger than yours so it's not comparable with what newbies and also some mid level players have to face in both events and normal mode, just share one of these matches from when you had lower MK of ships and you defeated some seal clubber-and it must be because of your skill, not strong teammate (I doubt you will have something comparable because you had lower MKs months ago and this issue is getting worse almost every season-I might be wromg so prove it and I will accept it, ok?)
    I doubt that someone can one/two shot you because I guess that only people like AM or Banderas have strong enough weapons to deal that high damage (would like to see result of battle in which you will be matched against either AM or Banderas-or even better would be both of them because your loss would be caused by your "low skill", not the difference between levels of items-you have t4/5 rares and epic, they have maxed t5 epics and t4/5 legendaries, would that be skill base win/loss?)
     
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  5. AAZ7

    AAZ7 Active Member

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    I think you should try to play speeder and see your accuracy when moving fast, lol. When I tried it first time, it wasn't an easy task to shoot right on target, believe me =)
    So yes, it's about his skill, too.
     
  6. ShipCrusherCz

    ShipCrusherCz Well-Known Member

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    Does it really matter?
    error 404:argument not found:)
    I played rudder speeder (blast, big torpedo, nitro, OB, turbo, rudder)
    and it was easy for me to lead shots (hit enemies) so this is not valid argument
    anything else?
    watch this:
    https://replay.battlebay.net/DVNDPGVP#PKLMHXMH
    the first torpedo was launched by a mistake but the hits on the last enemy are the important thing here
     
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  7. AAZ7

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    So, if you tried different ships, you should be experienced (skilled) player. Then I don't understand your problem. I tried to start all over again with new account a couple of months ago. It's not so bad, actually. I just don't have much time to play both of them, lol =)
     
  8. TheAntiSnipe

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    @AAZ7, I'd love to see you in a mk4 fighting a mk6 player with all the gear of one, in a fair fight of 1v1, and win.
     
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  9. ShipCrusherCz

    ShipCrusherCz Well-Known Member

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    Does it really matter?
    seal clubbers are the problem
    they don't beat me because of their skills but because of their OP items, they have weapons which are able to easily get me under 50% of my hp in two shots and even when I am better in terms of accuracy at long/mid range their firepower is just too high and that's what kills me
    shooters will sooner or later get close to me because their turbo is better so they're faster and they have 5 weapons (I have only 4) and at least 2 of them are usually OP so I have no chance against them
    speeders with OP items are the worst enemy for me because they can get close in few seconds, fire and then nitro away giving me time for 1 aimed or two quick shots but that's usually not enough to kill them or at least get them to 50% of their hp while they can easily do it
    that's the problem
    and what about the other mk1-4 players who are less skilled than me? they have no chance against more skilled players with much better gear-seal clubbers
     
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  10. AAZ7

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    Anyway, it's all relative. In my battles I have enemies, who can deal 2500-3000 dmg in one shot or around 4400 dmg from one mine. And I've had a lot of battles, when I was hit by almost all of the opponents's team right in the beginning, leaving me with 3000 hp out of my 7200, and I still managed to survive and win. And talking about relativity... When you'll be at my level, you should try to win some 1v1 battles against mk7 enfo or mk7 speeder or mk7 defender with 20k hp. Good luck with that =)
     
  11. R4Z0R

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    why do u wanna know?
    how does that guy on unfriends have no name?? i wan dat name tooo :p
     
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  12. ShipCrusherCz

    ShipCrusherCz Well-Known Member

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    Does it really matter?
    you can use almost anything from keyboards for your name, however some things are invisible at the results screen-he has name but it's not visible on results screen
     
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  13. StrictSalmon307

    StrictSalmon307 Well-Known Member

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    That guy has better items than me :eek:
     
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  14. AAZ7

    AAZ7 Active Member

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    He has his name written in Thai letters. It is visible before battle and in battle. But sometimes it is not visible on the results screen. Or maybe even mix of English and Thai letters, not sure =)
     
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  15. nikeej

    nikeej Active Member

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    Its hilarious that you are selecting a game play where you lucked out at the top.

    Wanna see some of your crappy game play ? One where you ate two consecutive big torps and ended up splashing damage to the team?
     
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  16. AAZ7

    AAZ7 Active Member

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    Yes, please.
    The thing is... "Two consecutive torps..." can happen to me like in 10% of my battles. And what I posted... Well, more than half of them. Lol =)
     

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