Items that I believe deserve a buff

Hello everyone, I'd just like to share my opinion on a handful of items that I believe are being left behind in the meta, and why they should get a buff. I've been playing Battle Bay for ~9 months, so this is all just from experience and mostly subjective. Also, because I'm at the nightmare level, a lot of these opinions are based around how these items perform at that league. And no, I am not asking for a buff to these items because "I use them". In fact, I use none of these items because they are bad lol. So here's the list:

Standard Cannon / pew pew cannon

Quite good at beginning stages of the game when you only have a couple of weapon slots, but pretty soon all the other cannons surpass this little guy by far. There is only one damage talent specific to standard cannon, whereas blast for example has 6.
Possible Change: Add another +10-15% damage talent option to standard cannon at level 21 and/or 24.​

Triple Torpedo

Boy am I sorry for any player who's first legendary is this underwhelming piece of junk (no offense). Not only is this weapon completely left in the dust by Big Torpedo's superior damage and splash radius, but its cooldown is a full 2 seconds longer, but it needs two captain's trees to be trained in order to reach its full potential; sinklair and blastian. Because Triple Torpedos wastes some talents on cooldown in order for it to have the same CD as Big Torpedo, it gets a damage boost specific to itself of +40%, meanwhile the more easily trained Big Torpedo gets a damage boost of +60% all the while gaining the other beneficial universal torpedo talents from the same captain training.
Possible Change: On captain talents 7 and/or 13 which reduce cooldown by 5%, add another option to increase the triple torpedo's damage by 10%. This leaves the choice of either damage boost or cooldown reduction and the player would make the decision based off what boat they use or how their setup works. This probably won't even be enough however, so some other kind of buff (perhaps angle reduction, bigger splash etc) could be implemented as well.​

Standard Shield

Standard Shield: The item only used by defenders and fixers. As for the other boats, bandage is a clear favorite over standard shield. Coincidentally, at mk6, defender and fixer are the two boats that need a buff the most (imo). Why not buff the standard shield, which in collateral would serve as a small boost to the defender and fixer. It would make shooter and speeder actually have to make a decision between standard shield and bandage, instead of how it is now where bandage is the clear and overwhelming favorite.
Possible Change: Slight hp buff? lol what else is there to do. Perhaps defense perks deserve a buff as well.​

Gear Lube / Rudder

Rarely ever used over the meta that is shields, turbo, and bandage.
Not much you can do here; the only real way to get these items used more often would be to nerf the other blue items, but that would be a huge and unwarranted nerf to defender.​

Frost Items

These items were average/well balanced in the past, but then a patch came out to fix captain talents which were not working properly to apply a % slow boost. After the fix, these items became like glueguns and rightfully so got a nerf. However, post nerf, frost items are extremely underused and almost unnoticeable. On top of that, the frost torpedo was also nerfed in the same patch as torpedo damage to frosted enemies was decreased. What was the frost nerf? See them here: https://forum.battlebay.net/threads/v-2-6-experienced-captains.14419/
Possible Change: Bring back the original frost mechanics where being hit while frosted only halved the frost duration and then just reduce the slowing strength.​

Thanks for those of you who actually took the time to look into my opinion, let me know if you agree or disagree with which items I believe need a buff or if you have another suggestion. Just trying to spark of some more discussion in hopes that the devs will see which items the players believe should be buffed. Also, are there some more items that should be buffed? I was thinking perhaps pulse / napalm as well but not too sure about that.

 

Frost items were literally killed. Little people whine about buffing them because almost everybody left the items behind.

 

Yeah, I sadly had to ditch my beloved frost torp Its still decent at mk5, (I made nightmare with it at mk5 post nerf) but at mk6 when you can use tesla shield, flare + EC is just so much better. I used that setup for 5k+ battles too, even before frost was fixed :\

 

I used to get so much contribution with a frost blaster when I was still mk2-mk3(around August). I would frost the last target when my whole team was firing at them, and it managed to live through like 3 hits each time. I got 3 stars only doing like 600 damage.
They also spoiled the mk1 and mk2 ships with the latest buff. Before, the mk2 speeder was really cool(2R2YY1B). And so was the mk2 enfo(2RR2Y1B). But now... the mk1 speeder is not even a speeder anymore, just look at it's arangement:
2RR2Y1B (same as the old mk2 enfo)
It has freakin' more red slots than yellow slots. wtf

 

Wtf they did that to mk2? Why lol

 

Rovio doesn't know how to distribute their slots properly at all.

 

I lol'd at the buff to gear lube that I guess was supposed to get more people interested in using it. It was a tweaking buff not a come and get it buff, it was like 9% or something. I seriously think they forgot that when they give for ex shooters and defenders really bad base turret rotation, that the buff is applied against the base turret rotation so even a 20% buff to the item adds only a few % to turret rotation overall. Wouldn't be their first or I am sure last math fail.

 

A decent gear lube on a shooter leaves enfo turret in its dust. I think that's good enough..

 

I don't know what you consider 'decent' but I have a level 4 epic gear lube (thanks, casino...) with rare+ perks and all it would do to a shooter turret would be to equal the enfo. So that's not 'in the dust' by any means.

 

Unfortunately the p2w thing has imbalanced this game beyond comprehension. If we were robots there'd be no f2p nightmares left.

 

So does demonic daddy, and his shooter has a much quicker turret than my enfo.

 

Just to be clear because above somebody was talking about outrunning a turret... his turret is much faster than your enfo TURRET with a level 4 epic, or do you just mean his turret moves much faster than you can circle strafe him?

 

F2p running gear lube on an enfo?
You must be joking.
His turret is much quicker than my turret (obviously)
Incidentally also much quicker than I could circle him in my speeder.

 

lol I meant that he has a t4 epic lube, not you

 

Some one mentioned having g turbo's not take up a blue slot to open it up for gear lube or ruder use . I think that would be a good idea . leave so you can still have different rarity and upgrade turbo just not rake up a blue slot. Only problem with that I can think of is people using the slot for another shield so may have to have a rule the extra blue slot can't be used for another shield only other blue items or maybe make gear lube and rudder a purple slot lol

 

Of course frost and gear-lube\rudder couse nobody use that crap